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This flips gameplay by 180 degrees. Just imagine how powerful burst champios will be.

Right now i find full arm pen runes olaf with Yoomu and LW melting tanks with 200 armor like it was nothing. If they will change to that state, champions with some kind of armor/magic penetration will be tweaked. After the change they would MELT enemy, no matter who he is.

This is make or break. I hope Riot will be VERY careful with this.

Oh Lawdy, incoming "Why can't I hold all these penetrations?" Xerath meme.

If burst mages make a comeback, Sivir will be the best ad carry.

Maybe the meta will shift, that you don't even have to have an ad carry anymore, since Riot released a lot of assassins the last months (Diana, Rengar (kinda at least), Kha'Zix, Elise).

Also, I wonder, what effect the promised ad caster item will have on certain ad carries, that deal a lot of physical aoe damage (Sivir, Graves, MF).

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AD carries will always be there.  They still scale the hardest and are still needed for sieges.  So don't think their going anywhere. 

That said, their lives may get rougher. 

Personally I hope to see the return of utility ad carries like Ashe and Varus.  But if things are tougher on AD's, then the escape AD's could stay. 

Not necessarily, because most ranged AP's can also poke towers down fast, if they have Lichbane. I know, that except for TF you won't see Lichbane often on a mage, but it is possible.

If assassins are going to snowball just as hard as they do now and in addition won't fall off late-game, because they can no longer be countered with a few defensive items, I can see carries getting warmogs to counter the burst or build more tanky.
If the first scenario works out, ad carries can still exist, but in the latter scenario they are technically going to be ranged bruisers.

Morello stated, that they try to make on-hit builds viable [1]. so Varus may have a niche there.

Also with more assassins running around and ganking lanes Ashe's built-in CV may prove to be more useful. She has the highest utility out of all ad carries and so she will at least be a niche pick.

This is all just a guessing game, though and no one knows how far-reaching the changes with s3 are actually going to be. I hope to see more individuality especially on ad carries, though.

This is just curel against AD carries.... ADs with say 60mr (just an estimate of lategame mr when you count for runes, aegis and base)... That will make an AP carry with say 46% pen and 50 flat (easily achievable with runes, masteries, a voidstaff, haunting guise and sorc shoes) do 25% increased damaage to the Ad carry, instead of the damage beein reduced by 6 % with the old model ... This is huge in actual numbers.... This will make a 2000 dmg burst combo do 620 more damage!!!! Guess glass cannons are going to be even more glass cannons... or that banshees veil is going to become more popular again, since litterly any penetration mage will have the ability to flash and just outright murder an AD carry, even if it gets shielded, from now on...

Cruel? entire game is not just cycling around ADCs and i really find current state rather stupid (an i play a lot of ADs btw), yes i am on of "those" people who think late game carries are way too strong/safe. I fin it sa when AD can just eat throug casters burst and then just one-shot hit ald lifesteal back to full HP, you have your entire team to protect you an if you screw you positioning (or your team´s "too busy" to protect you) you should be dead, you deserve to be dead it´s in the name. And it´s still not a problem to flash towars enemy carry and be immedietly CCed or burste in response, if your team is paying attention. You sir are under misapprehention, taht glasscannon ADC should be safe, no, he is not supposed to by safe by numbers but purely by his possitioning, you have ridiculously high sustained damage and pric you pay for it is a fact, that if oyu misstep, you can be shattered within a hearthbeat (yet again GLASScannon). Maybe we´ll see tankier builds for short rng carries (banshees + Maw/GA maybe), maybe we´ll see more Urgot, who know but it really needs some new wind.

But take into note, we don´t know what other items will be release to make for this change, maybe def items will be cheaper or stronger and nothing will really change that much, we´ll still.

I didn't read anywhere, that penetration will reduce your resistance below 0 in season 3. Do you have a source for this?

However, I agree, that BV is more likely to make a come back, because it shuts down most burst casters very well.

Darius Q = Aoe true damage at end game with maxed E =/

does it matter? u shouldnt be building armor to counter him anyway

to me this change is all about making new builds viable, and punishing people who dont pay attention to the other teams builds even more

"If there was only one stat to build against him, it's flat HP."

is that a problem? just because u cant counter everyone with the same defensive stat doesnt mean that stat is worthless, infact i would agrue that having two stats that could counter everyone besides the half dozen true dmg champs was a bad thing and probably why ignite was considered so strong this season

I don't understand, when did i ever say armor counters Darius? that's right! never! But all tanks build armor, or will have armor by end game. So his Q will do AoE true damage in team fights.

so this looks like an overall buff to carrys, but secretly its to make hp tanks better