Muramana Might Just be OP

 

Muramana Might Just be OP

     Muramana is all the rage right now.  And not on the champions it was likely designed for.  Champions like Syndra can build it and have access to a crazy amount of extra damage for only a little extra effort.  But she is not the only one.  Since Muramana Syndra, other champion interactions have come up as being exceptionally strong with it.  Some better than others, but overall, it has become far more a mage item than anything else.  Riot will likely do something about this at some point, till then, we can all enjoy a new AD build for our AP carries.  

 

It just looks cool.  OP Cool.

Muramana

     In the original Syndra article, we talked a bit about why it worked with Syndra's spells and I made a goof on why it works.  Mostly because I have never used the item.  Manamune was a terrible item on just about all but 2 champions and even then, pro's often built other items before it.  So now I know it works on single target spells.  But here is my question to you, why in the hell does it work on single target spells in the first place?  The answer here is likely Urgot.  He is just about the only AD champion that would build it and has single target spells.  Yorrick has his Q, but that is still an attack, not a spell.  The other spells are AOE.  Ezreal might build it, but only his Q would apply it.  Unless each bolt of his E is considered one target.  Either way, he is not going to be seeking this item.  But now that we know it works on spells so well, we end up with a situation where it is dealing extra damage for mages who love extra damage on their spells.  And it can do way more extra magic damage than just AP?  Oh and as a by product, I get mana-regen to do more spell casting?  And one last thing, it is magic damage, which goes with all that penetration I am building.  Hello mage item.  Was this in any way intentional?  I really doubt it, I think they thought the AD it gave would discourage mages from building it.  Or, just like what they did with black cleaver, they let the new items out with little restrictions purely to see what happens.  We know this works on Syndra, but who else would it work on and why?  

Leblanc

     Here is one I don't think anyone has tried it with yet.  Does her Q's sigil proc count as a single target spell?  That is two procs there, throw in a mimic for 3, an E for 2 more, and does that second E proc count?  Making 6 procs of the Murmana bonus damage.  Any Auto attacks during this time would count as well, making a potential for 7 or more procs in less than a second.  That is a lot of damage.  Now she isn't nearly as good at charging a tear as other champions, but it could work if they are all single target coded.  That is some scary damage on a mage with a lot of scary damage already.  Plus any arguments about scaling get thrown out real quick.

Kassadin

     I have been told his W procs will count for Murmana.  Port in, Q, E, attack twice for 5 procs.  Another assassin gets bonus magic damage from this item and fits perfectly with what he does.  Fixes some of Kassadin's mana issues and he can charge it easier with his ult.  Another high potential candidate. 

Ryze

     Ok, people have been saying this is the dream Ryze item due to damage.  I was originally unsure on it, but it does seem to really be very powerful.  His Q gains a significant amount of extra damage when his mana is high.  Just be careful about using muramana as you can burn through your mana quickly if you are not careful.

Elise

     Massive attack speed steroid would let each attack proc it and she does build magic pen.  Would apply to her Q in both forms too.  Something for you all to try.  

Nidalee

     Make those spears chunk that much harder and gain some AD. 

Warwick

     I have been told that Muramana Warwick will melt carries.  Beware how long it would take to charge the tear though. 

Enjoy it while it lasts

     Riot is going to change this at some point, some how I think.  The potential for abuse on some champions is very high.  Then again, they might make a radical decision and let it stay for fun, flavor and effect.  Still seems silly that it would work on spells, but here it is.  I thought of some ideas ranging from practical to impractical.  Who else do you think can use this item?   

 

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Comments

  • #67 sharkinajar

    I would like to give a followup to the Kassadin part. In my opinion, he is the best champion with it, hands down, because when his w procs it (for the full 6 seconds the ability is on) it also procs for his basic attacks, therefore for that 6 seconds you are actually burning 6% of your current mana, doing crazy damage. With a build around mana (Muramana, RoA, Seraphs) and a lich bane, your first hit with your w is over 1000 damage, and each sequential his is doing over 600 extra magic damage. Add that with your q, which also procs it, and his blink, you can kill pretty much anyone in 3-6 hits, even tanks.

  • #65 Rekuiem

    I personnaly use it on, Elise : Muramana + Iceborn Gauntlet.And i find it really op on Ez, with a kind of "on hit" build : Muramana + Iceborn Gauntlet + Runnan's Hurricane + Blade of the Ruined King

    Each auto attack (or Q) proc both, 150 magic damage from Muramana, + 4% hp as physical damage + Ez ad (+60 from Muramana alone) + proc from Iceborn + it all proc on 3 targets!

    I have to test it on Kog' Maw now

  • #64 Flibbgibb

    Came back to this article after seeing the new change to tear charging. It now charges on basic attacks, spells, and mana usage. Anyone that was questionable in this list is now incredibly viable.

  • #66 sgtcolon

    Just to clarify. ToG still only charges off spell casts, but yes, once you have Manamune it charges off auto-attacks too. It is a game changer on a lot of champions and also a reason to upgrade to Manamune from ToG ASAP.

  • #62 xarquan

    Tested Muramana on Blitzcrank today, turns out it procs on the passive of his ultimate for whatever reason.

    And withe the relatively short CD on his E, the attack speed increase on his W and his Q, I reckong he could easily wreck people's faces as a toplaner with it.

  • #60 Cerbereth

    But if they get rid of it Syndra will go back to sucking.....

  • #61 Dj0z

    Apparently she got buffs on PBE

  • #59 SpacianEU

    Just played some Ryze with Muramana, it's insane that it petty much doubles his mana ratios. And if you build Athene's, you won't run out of mana either. At least on Ryze, because you're getting tear anyway, it should be possible to get Muramana instead of Archangel's.

  • #56 chungyeung

    When you fully charge the manamura to 750 mana , the game time should already 25-30 minutes(fastest case).

    for all the good-feed-ap-carry, with deathfire , rabadon , void staff , the damage is really far beyond the muramana.

    for the muramana syndra , i would say it's fun as hell to play. but still hard as hell to play. you need to keep your full mana to get the muramana to do the full potential. if you only have 50% mana to cast the R, your additional muramana dmg was reduced by half.

    i would say muramana is not really OP , just another play style for all AD and AP . this is what riot want us to do.

     

  • #58 FatsXL

    The fastest case of Tears passive charging to full is 9 and a half minutes. Tear is cheap and the stacks also build up so several can be triggered at once if you haven't activated any in a while. So 25 minutes is a little excessive.

  • #55 pWasHere

    The fact that you are actually calling for a Syndra nerf is something I find rather infuriating. lol

  • #53 Cronosmite

    I've seen it done on top lane Nidalee to give some damage to spears for long range poke that is lost from going AD over AP. It gives her spears closer to AP Nidalee damage while still allowing her to build tanky AD, and she charges the Tear incredibly fast pouncing around in her cougar form.

  • #52 benblue4

    No mention of Cassiopeia? It's got to be her BEST item. So much more damage to her E, I can't believe I'm the only one to realize this.

  • #46 FatsXL

    I've had a lot of success with a Warwick Muramana build. That and Blade of the king are all the damage items he needs and yeah, at full mana Warwick will completely wreck carries with his R. It can do near 2k in raw damage. I'm also curious how well Jayce and a bruiser Swain would perform with the item but haven't tried either yet.

    Just for the record:

    Ezreals E (Arcane Shift) fires only one bolt
    Yoricks E (Omen of Famine) is single target
    Blitzcrank is another champ that would have bought Manamune before, his Q, E and the passive in his R are single target and apply the effect.

  • #41 mellored

    Also worth noteing that clarity is 40 % max mana.  Which synergies extreamly well with this.  Plus the early mana helps you charge the tear faster.

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