Champions who Benefit from the Season 3 Changes So Far

S3 Picks

Here at RoG we're going to continue to survey the landscape on what Season 3 might bring to the metagame. Now that enough attention has been given to the effects of the penetration change, I'd like to survey the landscape for some potential minor changes. Today Riot is supposed to (or will have already) announced what some of those changes are in detail. I do not have the luxury of writing about that yet and must comment on what we know already. So if you're here for stuff announced today, wait 'til Thursday. It's deadlines, man!

Okay, so what we do know so far are that there will be jungle changes, support tree changes, Indomitable and the defense tree will probably be nerfed, defensive stats will "cost more" (not entirely sure what that means), and that penetration will go by % first and flat last instead of how it is now, which is the opposite.

The first point is not concrete and has been speculated and written on already by our illustrious Stonewall, and for the second two there's not much to say yet. The last two are more concrete. If you take the typical flat 6 / 10% from masteries (which might change), early game the penetration won't mean much. If someone have 35 armor, under the old system it's 35 - 6 = 29 * .9 = 26.1. Under the new, it's 35 - 3.5 = 31.5 - 6 = 25.5. That is not a large difference at all. With 70: 70-6 = 64 * .9 = 57.6 under old, 70 * .9 = 63 - 6 = 57. The penetration's basic idea is to make assassins viable. Penetration runes, Last Whisper, and Void Staff are stronger. Okay.

As for "defensive stats costing more", that could mean items, masteries, or runes. My money is on items, with masteries being less so and runes not at all.

The automatic takeaway here is twofold: champions with penetration abilities are now better, and champions with built-in defensive abilities have gotten stronger.

 

Magic Penetration / Reduction

Armor Penetration / Reduction

Amumu
Fiddlesticks
Heimerdinger
Kog'Maw
Morgana
Ryze
Soraka
Trundle    
Jayce
Karthus
Kayle
Nidalee
Darius
Olaf
Jarvan
Jayce
Kayle
Nidalee
Renekton
Shyvana
Trundle
Urgot
Wukong
Xin Zhao
Corki
Heimerdinger
Kog'Maw
Nasus
Rammus
Taric  

 

Built-in Defense

And our other list, champions with built-in defensive abilities. For this I basically mean champions with free armor/MR, damage reduction, combat heals (i.e., Cho and Grag heals don't matter much in burst or combat, but Soraka and Taric heals do), or shields.

Alistar
Amumu
Anivia
Annie
Blitz
Diana
Galio
Garen
Graves
Janna
Jarvan IV
Jax
Jayce
Lee Sin
Leona
Lulu
Malphite
Morgana
Nautilus
Nidalee
Orianna
Poppy
Rammus
Riven
Rumble
Shen
Shyvana
Singed
Skarner
Sona
Soraka
Taric
Udyr
Urgot
Wukong
Yorick

This is a large list to draw from, and I can only choose so many. While every champion wins from these changes, some win more than others. Here are my picks to keep an eye on for champs that are already decent to great and will just get better due to kit survivability.

Amumu

So, he's already strong. Reducing 15-35 MR on a target is even better now, obviously, AND he has that free damage reduction on Tantrum. At level 7, this guy is reducing MR by 25 and physical damage to himself by 8. The mastery tree and the items may be harder to bulk up on, but this guy is going to stay the same while most of the rest get weaker. This little dude's not going anywhere.

Shyvana

10-20 armor and MR for free, plus double when ulting, all for nothing. The new jungle likely won't affect her either, as she can just max Q instead of single-target is so focused. She may die a little easier but I doubt her place as a jungle bully will change.

Garen

He is decent right now but, I have a feeling he'll get better, because his W provides a great shield and free stats for minimal cost. If the meta is crazy enough that it changes to burst, that's okay. If you slow him, he'll just break it for free, silence you with Q, spin, then ult you in your face, making him tankier than the new crowd but just as ready to burst and pack in the damage. Get your penetration runes ready.

Jarvan IV

Armor reduction by % in a line, plus a shield, plus 10-22 armor. Similar to Garen, he will maintain tankiness despite tank nerfs but still be viable for the burst/damage buffs.

Jax

His ult means he will be doing the same things he's always done. And he sure doesn't lack for damage and burst in the early game, either.

Malphite

Some suggest he actually may get weaker, but some Riot posts have suggested health will be a much better option now. If so this means his shield would be even better, and his shield is good in this meta (unless the trade meta goes away and all-in ends up dominating, but that is unlikely). He still has his attack-speed debuff and a great ult and passive--for him to go down means there'd need to be a drastic meta change and drastically different, poorer options in items. If Frozen Heart is still around, bully for him.

Shen

Shen's ultimate and his shield means he can just max W instead of Q. He might be weaker, but I doubt it will be by much, if at all. His abilities are just too good.

Singed

Singed just pops his ultimate and he goes onward and onward to troll land. A lot of Singed plays involves pushing and forcing it to late game. The real question is, can the viability of assassins and the damage increase make him weaker? Against AD carries with Last Whisper, definitely. Early and mid game general pain-in-the-butt'ery, no. 35 armor and MR plus all that regen will let him keep on chugging.

Skarner

His nerf hit him hard but his ult, as that of all suppression moves, will be even better for burstier, higher-damaging teammates. His Q is still good vs. single targets. His shield got nerfed, but will still be a good defense. He will still be anti-assassin and it will still be a bad idea to focus him. It'd take a crazy item rearrangement to take Skarner out of play.

Soraka

16 MR to everyone is still going to be great vs. Karthus and against assassin/burst mages. LeBlanc may come back into style, and Soraka will be a good counter. Plus, double heals to prevent those bursts. Plus, a silence vs. a burst/assassin while you have a burst/assassin teammate = assists. She has fallen out of favor due to nerfs and lack of mobility, but keep an eye on the meta--she might go back up again.

Taric

The easiest and most picked support. Tons of armor for free. And he reduces armor with his W. His popularity will not change in the slightest.

Wukong

Wukong has to be in the lead so that he can just burst down your whole team. With the 30% being applied first, this is a big deal. If he has 30% and then say 15 flat, it's 55 under the new system instead of 59.5. He also gets tankier in teamfights for free, though this gain is modest. Still, the meta seems like it will fit him better. Maybe. It depends on his penetration options from items and masteries.

Morgana

Anti-assassin, unless Pantheon / Talon mid makes a comeback. That shield. Also she depletes MR with her pool...

Karthus

Wall got nerfed. But it's still very nice for team reduction in percentage. And his ult. I anticipate lots of void staffs in the future.

Darius

Apprehends % armor penetration is much more appealing now. But he is still kitable. I anticipate slightly more dunking.

Olaf

If stacking health is a better idea, and he gets 10/20/30 armor pen from his ult (he does), then he's going to be a lot more appealing. He is going to hit even harder and even longer, the Olaf way, baby.

Xin

15% reduction and full of burst, and his ultimate will knock away pesky mages and assassins. Or anyone. He's not popular and he may not become popular, but I predict he'll go be a little better.

Next week

That's all for today. Can't wait to see what is going to change. On Thursday, I'll be referring to this article when I talk about health and why I think its role is about to change.

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Comments

  • #27 PhilNye

    How does this article not mention Xerath?  He's gotta be one of the biggest proponents to the penetration changes, having up to 40% pen on his W is INSANE, especially with the incoming changes, and tbh he already is pretty good against several "meta" mid picks (Ryze, Karthus, etc.)

  • #23 FatsXL

    This article assumes flat reduction will apply after % penetration, which has not been stated to be the case. The order could either be %red > %pen > flat red > flat pen, which would lend merit to your arguments, or %red > flat red > %pen > flat pen, in which case most of the champions you mentioned with reduction would actually compare less favorably than they do now in many circumstances.

    Secondly if armor and resistance increase in cost and all else remains the same that does not mean champions with inherent defense stats are "tankier", it simply means they will be hurt less by the price change than those without. But everyone will be less tanky than they are capable of being currently.

    Last edited by FatsXL 11/7/2012 2:29:45 PM
  • #24 PartyMagier

    it was %red->FLATred->FLATpen->%pen

    and since %pen and FLATpen are trading it is MOTS LIKELY (not sure) that it wil be

    %red->FLATred->FLAT PEN->%pen

    However this does make some of the article wrong, i.e. J4's %red will get weaker, because %pen gets stronger. (makes sense? no? screw you then)

  • #25 FatsXL

    Oy. This is not correct and your second order is identical to the first. The current order is

    flat red > %red > flat pen > %pen

    % applies after flat which reduces flats effectiveness by that %. This is why flat and % do not synergize as well as they will after they change % to apply first. Secondly as I said there is no indication whether they will have flat reduction apply before or after % penetration, it's all just speculation at this point.

  • #26 FatsXL

    Alright so Xypherous has confirmed that flat reduction will be applied BEFORE %penetration which means flat reduction will only benefit from the changes if the target has % reduction applied on them. It looks like the new Black Cleaver will do this, however otherwise there are very few % reduction spells in the game and most of them are situational (such as Nidalees traps).

    As a result all of the following champions that apply flat reduction as part of their kit won't benefit from the changes as much as this article suggests,

    Amumu (magic)
    Corki (armor)
    Fiddlesticks (magic)
    Heimerdinger (both)
    Kog'Maw (both)
    Morgana (magic)
    Nasus (armor)
    Rammus (armor)
    Ryze (magic)
    Soraka (magic)
    Taric (armor)

  • #20 Rhakzor

    And i'm looking forward seeing a lot of Wukong. I am personaly maining him mid lane to counter ap carries

     

  • #19 Rhakzor

    Olaf will be very strong

  • #17 CrazedMcCrazy

    Well, I might be (severely) wrong here, but despite these changes being supposedly good for all the currently non-viable assassins, won't they even be absurdly better for carries, specially the AD ones?

    And is that something that we want? AD Carries with even more carry-like capabilities?

    Again I stress that I'm probably not seeing the full picture and that Riot surely does know better than me, but I can't help to be concerned about the possible power-creep, which has been (surprise, surprise) creeping its way into LoL for some time now.

    At least, that's how I feel. Every recent char is just so powerful and with such great kits...

  • #18 Greenmoloch

    Riot already stated that they want to change and rework itemization for AD carries, and I personally actually anticipate (and hope) for them to get a slight nerf in the process.

     

  • #28 CrazedMcCrazy

    That would be great (despite also being the wise thing to do).

    As we both hope, here's to a slight nerf on the coming AD carries monstrosity.

  • #15 Greenmoloch

    I'd say not only assassins will be more viable, but AD-Casters in general. They will be able to mix flat and % armor pen items (and we probably can expect more of these in S3) pretty much at will with no loss in efficiency.

  • #14 Irrelevance

    Speaking of Xerath (I know a few commenters below have addressed this), I was disappointed to not see him mentioned at all in the article, since he gets a free void staff+ with his W active. These changes will be a fairly drastic buff to him, which should've at least been mentioned in the article.

  • #13 mjinspace

     Hey! Those eyebrows don't look OLD ENOUGH!

  • #16 exacerberus

    I heartily agree with you, in all the recent articles eyebrows have apparently suffered from an evident quality depreciation: neither enough old nor bushy. I'm totally disappointed.

  • #8 fydorm

    Yet another example of how RoG staff is trash and does not even put the slightest bit of effort into their articles. Reduction and penetration are 2 entirely different things. You listed plenty of champs with armor/MR reduction as if that will be a good thing, but the changes don't benefit them one bit. All reduction still applies before all penetration, so their shredding effects will actually end up being weaker in comparison to all the new penetration bonuses.

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