Non-Machete Item Starts for Junglers

Now this is something people have requested from me for quite awhile. Ever since doran's blade starts became more frequent in the LCS (even though solo queue players would do it) I have been asked to write about it. However instead of just writing about doran's blade I can also write about other non-machete starts.

Truth be told that machete + 5 potions is still arguably the best start for a vast majority of the cast. It offers the best clear speeds and sustain with the 5 potions. Every non-machete build does have pros though (albeit with cons too) but they revolve around the notion of "opportunity cost." That was thoroughly explained in an earlier article I wrote linked here. That said for those who want the tldr of it - opportunity cost is essentially what you give up in order to gain something else. That starting gold you spent on machete + 5 potions means you gained those items but lost on your starting doran's blade stats and etc.

Keep in mind that you can have non-machete starts or machete starts and still purchase the other starting items after you go back to the shop. The starting item idea depends on what you want to accomplish during the first few moments before you can purchase more items and what you may eventually want to build towards. It is also important to note that some champions make better use of some starting item options than others and, that even if you do not start with a machete, the machete spirit line is very strong to pass up for most champions especially spirit of the ancient golem. Also please note that champions who make good use of certain item starts will be listed at the bottom but it does not mean that they are the only ones who make good use of it. I cannot go on listing all of them.


 

Machete + 175 gold

Just for the sake of comparison I will also note the machete start. I noted the 175 gold because a lot of champions (especially with leashes) can forgo 3 potions for a ward. It is typical for the jungler who starts with a machete to go with 5 health potions but it is still worth noting. I do not need to explain the usefulness of starting off with a green ward (or a pink ward if you want to forgo another potion) and the machete benefits is already pretty well known.

The machete start offers strong sustain thanks to the potions and boosts the clear speed of pretty much all the jungle cast. It increases damage on monsters when you strike them or use abilities. It is pretty damn self explanatory isn't it? Now the biggest value with machete, aside from the security and general usefulness, is the powerful and cheap upgrades

Madred's Razor - The recent change to it has made it far more consistent and technically better. It still does not beat the usefulness of the spirit line but it has some uses. Madred's razor is strong on a lot of champions (though spirit line is better) and can help if you need immediate tankiness or need to pursue other items instead of obtaining a tier 3 spirit item. It is a strong choice vs physical teams especially when you your team could benefit strongly from an aura item such as aegis.

The Spirit Line - These items have been buffed and nerfed throughotu season 3 for good reason. They came out crappy but are now some of the best items in the game for a jungler. They are ridiculously cost efficient and have very simple components. Simply they give junglers a very inexpensive but powerful offensive or defensive item. Spirit of the ancient golem may even be purchased without a machete start as it is very powerful in fact.

Doran's Blade

This item start is only a choice for champions with very strong AD ratios or clearing power, or the champion has the sustain to make up for the lack of potion security. A player can help pad that issue by equipping themselves with lifesteal quints.

This item start exemplifies opportunity cost and cost efficiency. The junglers who can make due without the potion sustain will save the potion gold for later as they did not have to purchase any. They also gain an increase in kill potential thanks to the health boost and straight damage boost. They become stronger gankers and stronger duelists over their machete counter parts. After a first clear, the doran's blade jungler can purchase yet another doran's blade and increase gain a ridiculous power advantage.

The best way to explain that is to imagine two scenarios. Imagine two Udyrs jungling and one started with a doran's blade and one started with a machete. In a straight fight the doran's Udyr, unless he did not sustain himself well in the jungle, should have the advantage due to damage output. Now imagine the doran's Udyr purchased another blade while the machete Udyr upgraded the machete to a spirit stone. The doran's Udyr will now utterly murder his opponent as the spirit stone offers no combat stats while doran's blade, while it cannot be upgraded, gives very powerful early game combat stats. This whole concept applies to ganks as well as you will have an early item advantage over your targets as they may have not gone back to purchase items or have not purchased anything meaningful yet.

To add to all this, two doran's blades may be all the offense some junglers may need for awhile. They can forgo tankiness for the first few levels and doran's blades are very cost effective, albeit dead-end, items that add a lot of power when a character obtains a set of them. It can be very powerful for some junglers to buy 1-2 doran's blades and then purchase spirit of the ancient golem/aegis.

Great start for - Aatrox, Jarvan, Olaf, Elise, Lee Sin

Doran's Ring

I cannot say much about this really since it is basically the same thing as doran's blade but for mana reliant junglers and ap junglers. It follows the same principles, sacrifices and gold efficiency gamble.

Great start for - Diana, Fiddlesticks, Amumu, Maokai, Evelynn

Long Sword

This is yet another item start that is essentially a doran's blade start but it gains some benefits in exchange for some sacrifices. There is no static health gain with this start or sustain aside from potions. However the benefit is that long sword does cost less and allows you to purchase 2 potions for sustain and long sword can actually be upgraded. This is what makes the long sword start a better option for some junglers. You can purchase a vampiric scepter after your first clear which will help solve your sustain issues. Long sword start comes with the benefits of the doran's blade can be built into the items you avoided starting with in the first place such as a wriggle's lantern or a spirit of the lizard elder from the machete lines. Just to lump it up here with this - amplifying tome is the same thing but for AP scaling characters.

Great start for - Shyvana, Riven, Warwick, Aatrox, Udyr

Boots of Speed

This is the Season 2 staple item start for pretty much everyone in the game including non junglers. It was a dark time for creativity when this item was a must build for everyone in the game. A very select few could purchase them in Season 1 but the jungle nerfs made it so everyone could purchase them while jungling without getting stomped by the monsters. For Season 3 they buffed the movement speed of every character in the game and made boots start weaker as a result. It still has its uses but it is not as strong on everyone as it was before.

Currently some junglers can utilize boots of speed start very effectively. The pattern with these junglers though is that they already possess some sort of movement speed steroid and, in fact, rely on their mobility to do anything. This makes it obvious that they would benefit from a boost of mobility early when it comes to ganking. Boots of speed does not help clearing in any way but it helps duel maneuverability (not in slug fests), ganking and invasions. A boots start tends to not be a strong choice for junglers who have sustain issues. It does help set up plays for junglers with crowd control but it is not as needed as it was in Season 2.

Great start for - Udyr, Volibear, Riven, Nunu, Rammus

Rejuvenation Bead

Now this is one I know very few people have heard or seen except if they watch certain streamers. The rejuvenation bead start may (usually) include another rejuvenation bead or a faerie charm. This starting build is all about opportunity cost. It does not increase fighting potential, it does not improve clearing at all and it does not really help sustain all that much. What this start does is it lets certain junglers rush a tiamat to improve all sorts of things. Sure they could go with a long sword start but a rejuvenation bead start gives a player a lot more wiggle room. If a rejuvenation start goes sour, the jungler can just upgrade it to a spirit stone and go the usual path for instance. If the jungler seeks a non tiamat path later they can simply hold onto the beads and upgrade them to warmog's or an aegis. It personifies opportunity cost.

Of course another alternative is to purchase rejuvenation bead, a ward or two and the rest in potions. You forgo combat and clearing power but you boost your survivability by quite a bit and the wards help protect your team (obviously) by helping deny enemy invasions or ganks. The obvious disadvantage here is that you burn a lot of gold purchasing consumables so its effectiveness hinges on the gamble working.

Great start for - Maokai, Lee Sin, Trundle, Dr. Mundo, Shyvana

Cloth Armor + 175 gold

This is the classic item build from Season 1. It was absolutely required for a vast majority of the cast though some could make do with boots or vampiric scepter if they followed a different path than the usual. Now it is an item start that is rarely seen except in very few instances and usually only by seasoned junglers who know their match ups well. It does not increase clearing speed by much but it does help sustain for some junglers. Its biggest benefit, aside from building options, is that it increases a junglers defensive prowess in duels. This is normally only good for junglers who win duels through sustained damage but not much else really.

As it stands it is only a good idea to take this item start if your opponents are mostly physical damage dealers and you are seeking an item upgrade from cloth armor.

Great start for - Dr. Mundo, Shyvana, Lee Sin, Jarvan, Skarner

Wards

This is a build that only a handful of junglers can opt to start with and it is a huge gamble of a start. You can start the game by purchasing only wards and some potions. It is purely consumables so, unless you make good use of them, you will have wasted all of your gold. This is only recommended vs hyper aggressive invaders/gankers and only on support junglers albeit non support junglers can also take it. There is not much to say about it really aside from the obvious gold risk and the benefit of having tons of wards early. You can even start with an oracles if you are insane and daring.

Potential start for - Nunu, Warwick, Fiddlesticks, Cho Gath


 

You can start with almost anything really but please try to be smart about it. The best item choices is always whatever is the smartest item choice for that given game. As with champions, nothing is troll as long as it can be properly justified and a proper argument for it can be made.

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  • #49 dnagemo

    You think nocturne could start dorans blade?

  • #50 lilleralle156

    i do that when im up against a jungler i can duel at his second buff. you just overwhelm people with damage. And i use ls quints

  • #48 KingOfThe23Stars

    Thanks For This Article! I Like It!

  • #46 Bodycounter

    I started to go Dorans Blade on Shaco. It's a huge difference between Machete and Dorans. The counterjungling and gank potential increases greatly. Your sustain lacks even more. When im confident with the matchup ill go Dorans now. Get the first blood, rush madreds and blade of occult and start snowballing ;-)

    It's highly risky on a risky champ, but it's also high rewarding for going all in.

    Last edited by Bodycounter: 8/27/2013 10:25:07 AM
  • #45 Insanitism

    Tournament Nunu is extremely smart.

  • #42 Basinator

    Which start should Mundo go for the most sustain?

  • #43 NoobyBanana

    Probably reju bead for the start into spirit of the ancient golem and a hunter's machete. 

  • #41 FunkosaurusRex

    Stonewall, I've done the dorans blade* start on a few champs (Lee, Aatrox, Udyr) and sometimes I feel like maybe it hurts me more than it helps due to taking too much damage on the first clear unless I lvl 2 gank after red and smite. I have 2 Lifesteal quints, 1 AD Quint, full ad reds, armor yellows, MR blues. Any tips?

    Last edited by FunkosaurusRex: 8/26/2013 1:05:56 PM
  • #44 DarkSideCreo

    If you got a decent enough leash, and you are utilizing Udyr's shield properly (activating it around 3 seconds before the camp, switching to tiger, then activating the shield as soon as its up), you shouldn't have any sustain issues with udyr, especially with Diamondprox masteries (+3% LS/SV). I usually get lvl3 with almost full hp.

  • #51 FunkosaurusRex

    I should've clarified I guess. i really meant this towards lee. I always seem to take way too much damage with him. Probably because of leash issues

  • #38 Biskuit3

    What do you think about Doran's blade on Rengar?

  • #36 Lewleit

    I'm struggling typing this on my cel, so consider responding cause it really sucks having no Internet on my pc.
    Since I started watching your videos on YouTube I tried jungle and loved it. After searching I found that shyvana is by far my favorite jungler and after reading this I wondered upon some builds on her.

    First off. Is Dorans Blade viable on her as start? How effective is it? What should I do to make it out the most of it with her?

    Then with this in mind I thought... well no sustain that sucks. But then thought on trying LS quints when it struck me that SV could be even more effective. With her new E on hit procs and W plus the damage done by E...which is better and why?

    With that in mind, I thought maybe building Spectral Wraith isn't as bad on her for the sustain instead of going wriggles. But then I'm not so sure about the drawbacks...

    So what are your thoughts on this? Any answer would be of help.
    I'd test myself but as stated above, no Internet.

    Thanks in advance for your attention!

  • #37 mattmarine313

    Your right, because of sustain issues if you wanna start a non-machete start i'd go long sword+2 pots for Shyvana. Blade of the ruined king is really good on her and can be rushed. Spectral Wraith just no. While it and her ult have AP scaling its not worth it. Your going to be autoing much much more then throwing Es and ulting hence the BORK.

  • #39 Coykoi

    Generally Dorans Blade start is effective on AD junglers with an attack speed steroid. This is because Doran's blade gives back health per hit which can amount to decent sustain if given enough AA's. 

    The prime example is Doran's blade udyr. By running lifesteal quints and using tiger/turtle you can regen a large amount of health (from tiger AS and turtle lifesteal). Shyvanna lacks these properties and so I wouldn't advise a doran's blade start even if her clear time is absurd. Considering it's a dead end item without providing the great sustain that it normally would to some junglers would make me suggest in the most aggressive build to go longsword pots as well. 

  • #35 beebop64

    Great article. I used to be in the trap of only starting machete+pots. I was trying to get Rengar to work in the jungle and would never had any luck. Then a few months ago I saw a vid where they started Dorans blade. I gave it a shot, everything finally "clicked" and I haven't looked back.

  • #34 Aeonx651

    Albiet

  • #33 DeathDevilize

    I use Dorans start on Yi quite alot too, you should add him

  • #32 3nder93

    I'm curious about what you changed your opinion to with Aatrox, In the OGN stream I saw Him being built Tank/Cdr. 

  • #40 Lynnlei

    He mentioned on Twitter that it was his friend Aerodactyl who changed his opinion (not his usage in OGN or the EU LCS, although that probably solidified it).

    Although he believes Aatrox still requires a lot of gold to be efficient.

  • #31 LightEcho

    I haven't seen anyone do this since the cost change but what about the ultimate gamble, red pot start? Was pretty decent at the start of the season.

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