So, I've decided to learn how to jungle, as I'm sorta low leveled and whenever a team has a jungler at those low levels, their jungler tends to dominate the game. I tried jungling once with Malphite, but didn't really like him so I was wondering if you guys could give me tips or recommend some junglers for me. I decided that the main things I'm looking for in a jungler are:
Strong ganks
Snowballing
Able to carry
Fast clearing
Does tons of damage and not just CC
Isn't just a tank
I don't need all of those but I would like most of them The junglers I have at the moment are
I'm also very interested in Shaco right now, as he's on sale. It would be great if you guys could also give your opinions on Shaco at the current moment.
Vi, Lee Sin, Olaf, possibly Nocturne would fit your criteria, but you don't own any of them. Of your existing list, Riven seems the closest to your criteria. Kha'Zix also fits most of it, but he's not as much as a bruiser as the current meta demands. Kayle may be okay as well, depending on your playstyle. Most of your list is tanky junglers, support junglers, or CC-bot junglers.
Also note that it sounds like you're favoring early-game gankers and damage dealers, so an early carry, not a late game carry.
Another jungler you might be interested in is Diana. She gets tanky, clears well, and ganks decently. If she gets a couple kills she'll snowball into a death machine as well.
Of the junglers you already have, I would favor Kayle. I have been working on Kayle jungle myself and have flipped back and forth between ranking up Q or E first. I currently go E level 1, then W level 2 to help with the early sustain in my first clear and then either Q next if I want to gank after my first clear or rank 2 E if I want to back and clear the small camps again before ganking (like if all lanes are pushed or low health when I'm at my last camp of the first clear).
Kayle jungle provides aoe damage for clearing the smaller creeps without actually having to target them with her E along with ranged kiting and MR reduction on ganks, some sustain with heal / movespeed on her W and a powerful slow for ganking with her Q. So her entire kit is great for jungling in general and I haven't even mentioned her ult which if used properly sways any skirmish in your favor.
Some issues I've ran into with Kayle jungle in low elo ranked games is, teamates don't know how to react or just don't know what my ult does. I've went to gank bot so many times only to have my adc running away with half health and my ult on them basically wasted. When I ult someone I WANT them to take damage and abilities. It is wasted damage while triggering enemy cooldowns. Also the range on Kayle's Q and W reach farther than her sight range. That is underestimated by teamates alot as well. I will go in to gank and throw my slow on someone, but I will be the only one to react at first leaving my lane teamate too far away to take advantage either because they weren't paying attention or just didn't think I would land my slow.
Some tips I would give that I have learned so far is, don't wait until someone is low to ult them. This is mainly for teamfights but if you are ganking and the enemy tries to engage you for a kill you need to identify who is the target as early as possible to ult them. Once your teamate absorbs the burst from the enemy team and you ult them all you are negating is auto attack damage basically because the abilitys are on cooldown. Gank mid and bot more than top imo, squishier targets, but don't abandon top. You have to keep him honest at least and top isn't always less squishy but most top lane matches are bruisers vs bruisers. If you get an Akali top or something of that order then by all means camp top and get your laner snowballing. Why go top and 2v1 a tanky bruiser who can mostly just walk back to his turret with plenty of time and health when you have 2 bot that are usually both squishy and you have at least 1 teamate with some cc to go along with yours.
riven is not good, becose if u get fed its free win, but if u dont get fed , or u fall behind u will be champ with no / unfinished build who must go in, that sucks
mundo is great pick, no mana
build : madreds, boots , rush warmogs , and u r most op champ on the map with that build, try him, he is a best, so much dmg early game with 0 items, super fast clearing speed
Of the names you've listed, the only champion that seems to fit your desired playstyle is Xin Zhao. In low ELO, i'd also say Cho fits your criteria. I love jungle Kayle and use her myself, but she's fairly situational. I find she needs someone to run a tank at top in order to reach her maximum usefulness in teamfights.
Other Junglers that fit your criteria and you may want to get around to trying are Vi, Jarvan IV, Olaf, Hecarim, and Diana.
I wouldn't recommend Shaco. The nerfs have hit him hard and he's at a point where if you mess up even a little with him you become useless very quickly.
They way you tend to build mundo isn't as strong as you may think. I've mained mundo for quite a long time , all along season 2 , to be specific. Also played him S3 and there are just way better paths for mundo.
Hecarim and Vi are beast atm, they carry so hard, but nerfs are already on pbe so id wait and see. I just unlocked J4 and I really enjoy him. Hes in a rlly good spot atm. Ohh ofc slight xin nerfs incoming too. DUH
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So, I've decided to learn how to jungle, as I'm sorta low leveled and whenever a team has a jungler at those low levels, their jungler tends to dominate the game. I tried jungling once with Malphite, but didn't really like him so I was wondering if you guys could give me tips or recommend some junglers for me. I decided that the main things I'm looking for in a jungler are:
I don't need all of those but I would like most of them
The junglers I have at the moment are
Xin Zhao, Maokai, Nautilus, Cho'Gath, Alistar, Kayle, Kha'Zix, Skarner, Riven, Nunu, and Master Yi
I'm also very interested in Shaco right now, as he's on sale. It would be great if you guys could also give your opinions on Shaco at the current moment.
Vi, Lee Sin, Olaf, possibly Nocturne would fit your criteria, but you don't own any of them. Of your existing list, Riven seems the closest to your criteria. Kha'Zix also fits most of it, but he's not as much as a bruiser as the current meta demands. Kayle may be okay as well, depending on your playstyle. Most of your list is tanky junglers, support junglers, or CC-bot junglers.
Also note that it sounds like you're favoring early-game gankers and damage dealers, so an early carry, not a late game carry.
Another jungler you might be interested in is Diana. She gets tanky, clears well, and ganks decently. If she gets a couple kills she'll snowball into a death machine as well.
ah the parentheticals...
Xin is very strong atm.Easy to gank,lots of dmg,not really fast but he can carry if fed
Of the junglers you already have, I would favor Kayle. I have been working on Kayle jungle myself and have flipped back and forth between ranking up Q or E first. I currently go E level 1, then W level 2 to help with the early sustain in my first clear and then either Q next if I want to gank after my first clear or rank 2 E if I want to back and clear the small camps again before ganking (like if all lanes are pushed or low health when I'm at my last camp of the first clear).
Kayle jungle provides aoe damage for clearing the smaller creeps without actually having to target them with her E along with ranged kiting and MR reduction on ganks, some sustain with heal / movespeed on her W and a powerful slow for ganking with her Q. So her entire kit is great for jungling in general and I haven't even mentioned her ult which if used properly sways any skirmish in your favor.
Some issues I've ran into with Kayle jungle in low elo ranked games is, teamates don't know how to react or just don't know what my ult does. I've went to gank bot so many times only to have my adc running away with half health and my ult on them basically wasted. When I ult someone I WANT them to take damage and abilities. It is wasted damage while triggering enemy cooldowns. Also the range on Kayle's Q and W reach farther than her sight range. That is underestimated by teamates alot as well. I will go in to gank and throw my slow on someone, but I will be the only one to react at first leaving my lane teamate too far away to take advantage either because they weren't paying attention or just didn't think I would land my slow.
Some tips I would give that I have learned so far is, don't wait until someone is low to ult them. This is mainly for teamfights but if you are ganking and the enemy tries to engage you for a kill you need to identify who is the target as early as possible to ult them. Once your teamate absorbs the burst from the enemy team and you ult them all you are negating is auto attack damage basically because the abilitys are on cooldown. Gank mid and bot more than top imo, squishier targets, but don't abandon top. You have to keep him honest at least and top isn't always less squishy but most top lane matches are bruisers vs bruisers. If you get an Akali top or something of that order then by all means camp top and get your laner snowballing. Why go top and 2v1 a tanky bruiser who can mostly just walk back to his turret with plenty of time and health when you have 2 bot that are usually both squishy and you have at least 1 teamate with some cc to go along with yours.
Wow didn't realize that was a novel. Apologies.
Lol its ok. I thought it was extremely informative and interesting. Great work! :D
dont buy shaco
shaco is for experienced junglers, i destroyed so many bad shacos with lee, u cant start learning jungle with shaco, he sucks anyway
lee, olaf , nocturne, jarvan, vi, skarner, dr MUNDO
riven is not good, becose if u get fed its free win, but if u dont get fed , or u fall behind u will be champ with no / unfinished build who must go in, that sucks
mundo is great pick, no mana
build : madreds, boots , rush warmogs , and u r most op champ on the map with that build, try him, he is a best, so much dmg early game with 0 items, super fast clearing speed
Of the names you've listed, the only champion that seems to fit your desired playstyle is Xin Zhao. In low ELO, i'd also say Cho fits your criteria. I love jungle Kayle and use her myself, but she's fairly situational. I find she needs someone to run a tank at top in order to reach her maximum usefulness in teamfights.
Other Junglers that fit your criteria and you may want to get around to trying are Vi, Jarvan IV, Olaf, Hecarim, and Diana.
I wouldn't recommend Shaco. The nerfs have hit him hard and he's at a point where if you mess up even a little with him you become useless very quickly.
Play nocturne > Mindlessly farm til 20mins > only gank 100hp enemies > come out of jungle with BotrK and black cleaver/BT > Win?
Throw a mogs and a last whisper in there somewhere if game drags out.
this is very bad , dont do that, nocturne must gank all the time, and definitely dont build glass cannon
every time when u get an advice use lol king and check out that person
They way you tend to build mundo isn't as strong as you may think. I've mained mundo for quite a long time , all along season 2 , to be specific. Also played him S3 and there are just way better paths for mundo.
Hecarim and Vi are beast atm, they carry so hard, but nerfs are already on pbe so id wait and see. I just unlocked J4 and I really enjoy him. Hes in a rlly good spot atm. Ohh ofc slight xin nerfs incoming too. DUH
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I base my nocturne play and build off XJ9's streams so...
based on your play ...
why do you think you are lowest tier there is, dont give people wrong advices
i played my fair amount of noc games in gold tier and i know for sure that u cant build him glass cannon, dont compare yourself to xj9
http://www.solomid.net/guides.php?g=43120-theoddone-nocturne-build-guide