Quote from GentlemanGustaf »
If a game is only fun when you win, it's not a very well designed game.
No game is fun when you lose, especially not a competitive game. The game can cuddle you and give you an easy way back in or make it so it doesn't hurt too much to lose, but in the end you still lose/fail/suck/get owned.
Quote from Epicion »
Guys, people have different Meta's as we speak. Korean streams and their meta is a prime example of how the stats of the game remain the same, but different metas exist. The meta changing is completely dependant on the "sheep" following what the latest tournament used. That's the only thing I understand from "the meta is subject to change", otherwise going in a 5 man team and picking a comp without an AD or support isn't "troll".
Bull. Korean meta is the same meta as everywhere, except with different champions going to the same fixed lanes.
Sometimes they lane swap, which is 1/ something you can agree on in champion select 2/ not something that is common in bronze-diamond where 99% of the players are.
Also, even if this would have the slight drawback of slowing down experimentation for the 1%, this would be more than compensated by the massive QoL buff for EVERYONE ELSE. In normals (80% of the community) mid is pretty much ALWAYS decided by who pastes the fastest. This is garbage and Riot should be ashamed for not implementing role queue and then fixing its issues instead of leaving the current toxic rotten situation the way it is.
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Quote from Salanthro »
"2. WTH has champion roles to do with this? Queue was supposted to be for "lanes" and not for chars... (jungle, solo, mid, duo, support - those were here always regardless of champs played at those lanes)"
Duo hasn't always been here. Taric or alistar were good at roaming once apon a time.
Roaming meta was pretty much instantly nerfed so riot is more or less encouraging the current meta regardless if some people want to believe it or not.
This. Riot doesn't want the meta to change because it would throw champion balance in disarray.
Quote from EuWGasgano »
sry for being absolutely offtopic, but are you THE enai siaion? the one with the awesome trackmania rpgs?
THE one. (I thought this was going to be about Skyrim... ;) )
I don't get this thread. Yes, there are un-fun champions to play against, and for the sake of your game you should change them. But isn't fun something you have to earn by beating your opponents? How fun is it in Dota to get chronosphered and killed before you can move? How fun is reaper harrass in Starcraft? A lot of fun if you are BETTER and OWN the enemy so they can't do that and instead scatter before you.
Sometimes Riot is so strict about anti-fun that they forget that losing itself IS not fun.
Quote from StonewallRoG »
She is definitely better than the previous Sejuani. Read the last article. She's become much more usable. Less damage but she actually functions properly now.
If by dumbing her down from a level where you actually needed to think to a level where you can just mash all the buttons and perform better is a "buff" instead of a design failure...
The Sejuani reference is hilarious. Take one unplayed champion with a high win rate but a bad rep:
> Slightly change balance.
> Greatly reduce the skill cap.
> THE PULSEFIRE BUFF.
And suddenly she's OP.
Quote from Rewenger »
It's not like mechanics ideas belong to DotA, given the fact that League devs were also DotA devs. It's like saying that Ashe frost arrows are Drow Ranger's ripoff.
Except Lucifer was made AFTER Guinsoo quit.
Sejuani actually got slightly nerfed and her skill cap was massively lowered. She's just another herpaderp jungler now like Hec or Nasus.
