• posted a message on Black Cleaver rework on the PBE

    What do you guys think aboutt this on Riven? Seems interesting with all the stats she needs, and makes her a little more tanky with the 400 HP, but that lack of a Brutaliser hurts.It does make her a bit more sticky though with the MS and all

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  • posted a message on Would you like Crit being flattened?

    Changing crit into enhancing AA damage would be something I'd get behind. It would encourage the building of it on other kinds of champions, and wouldn't be the random dice rolling that it currently is. It would overpower Draven a lot, but it would be something that you could balance against, rather than the pseudo-random system of now

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  • posted a message on Thoughts on top lane Rengar
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     So..what do you do if Quinn decides to stand away from the bush and easily last hit? What if Quinn is standing in her minion wave? Also, if you double E and just walk away, Quinn is ranged, so she starts punishing you for your folly by AA, Q, E and Harrier. Also Quinns either start Dblade or Sword and 3, which probably goes into a Vamp Sceptor. Her sustain isn't actually that bad. 

     I've already covered this, but ok I'll humor you.

     

    The only place to easily last hit out of bush range is next to your tower or a bit in front of it really, in which case being Quinn doesn't change anything cause everyone can do that to a degree if Rengar pushes the lane up.  The only other place out of range is down close to river but then you're risking giving Rengar or even his jungler an easy way to corner you and an even easier time for Rengar to just sit in the bushes where cs'ing is easier and puts a constant pressure on your lane, as well as a ticking time bomb, cause if you let him farm freely he'll either come back and one shot you from stealth (blinds don't save you from that kind of damage) or he'll simply go to another lane and do it.  Just cause he's top doesn't mean he can't gank as well or better then your jungler can lol  And standing in a minion wave for trading or skill shot denial is once again something everyone can do, it's not Quinn specific and as a Rengar player (or any melee champ really) it's something you have to work around in almost every single game, and it actually usually lulls your lane opponent into a false sense of security so you can jump them with an emp Q when some minions die or surprise them with massive bola damage.  That's just basic laning mechanics, not Quinn or Rengar specific tactics.

     

    Next, your E has a longer range then Quinn's aa, so there's that little easy tid bit of info, hit a max range emp E then a free E and she can't even shoot you in reply lol  Also it's hard to chase after someone to trade damage, even as a ranged champ when you're rooted then slowed again afterwards (you still get slowed after an emp E root wears off even if you don't get hit by another bola, and yes that's intentional).  Yes if Rengar jumps a Quinn and emp E's them point blank then Quinn will usually do a lot of damage back, but again that's why I said laning as Rengar changes against ranged opponents, cause you can't do that and any decent Rengar won't.

     

    And no, around 10% life steal early game won't help very much at all against a bursty bruiser (reason why champs like Rengar and Xin counter the likes of Vlad so hard), especially when Rengar can build life steal as well on top of his ability to self heal should he have to.

     

    I'm not saying Quinn can't win ofc, if Rengar is bad at playing his champ or makes some mistakes Quinn is definitely one of the easiest champs to capitalize on melee champ mistakes with, all I'm saying is that laning as Rengar against a Quinn is not anywhere near difficult if you know how to play Rengar.  He has a hard time against Panth and Fiora cause they can do as much damage and reflect/block his Q as well as tanky champs who are hard to burst down and can deal more sustained damage, like Darius or Garen.  Squishy ranged champs are not his weakness lol

     I'd just like to ask you then. As a ranged AD champion with waveclear, versus a melee champion with a bush mechanic, why should't I be able to push the melee champion to his tower, and deny him his bush mechanic?

     

    Yes, I concede the point that you can harass me with your bolas. The fact still remains that it's a single target skillshot, and since I'm pushing the wave to your tower, I should have more minions to hide behind. Also you mentioned the fact that you are using your bolas to try and CS. Again, it's a single target skillshot. It's either farm, or hitting Quinn. You can't have both.

     

    While this does make Quinn vulnerable to jungle agression, yellow trinkets and Quinn's W also exist. Even then, you should be lower health than her, since it's either Empowered W for heal or Empowered E for your harass. 

     

    I do main Quinn, so I do know what I'm talking about

     

    Edit: Wow, I got ninja'd hard. Guess that's what I get for Rogging in class :p

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  • posted a message on I can't believe how naive I was

    Well, if you have evidence, you can send in replays to Rito. Also maybe get into 1 more game, get him to show obvious signs of scripting, then report him.

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  • posted a message on Thoughts on top lane Rengar
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    Good Quinns will E you in the middle of your jump. It might be a little hard to time at first, but good Quinns can do it, and after you throw your bolas yoou can no longer follow up since you are now blinded and have taken hits from Harrier. Also don't fight her before level 3, since most Quinns take E first (top lane) you will have no real way to get to her and even if you do, you have just taken 2 harrier procs. 

    Oh, and Quinn will most likely push the lane, and she is ranged anyway, so it is hard to poke her with a skillshot bola when under tower. 

    Quinn can't E if she's rooted, and for the couple Quinn mains I've faced in lane it no longer became a bola -> jump her for more damage while she's rooted, it was a bola in openings and just smash her with bolas and dominate her with sustain and constant bola harass.  Like I've already clearly stated, if a Quinn blinds you as Rengar and you actually stay to try and fight it out at that point then you're a bad Rengar player, if not just bad in general.  You can boost your armor against her and just walk away while she's rooted or slowed a ton (since you should be maxing E against her always) and she can't follow up on you without ulting to catch up, which means you can ult as well and negate them both.

    Laning against Quinn as Rengar is seriously really easy.  Rengar has some tough match ups, but if you actually know how to play him this is not one of them, any squishy top laner with no sustain is a very dangerous choice against a good Rengar player, that's just a fact.

    Oh, and against Quinn and other ranged top laners Tiamat should be first or second buy, so if she pushes she's just giving you easy farm.  Also, once again, you should be maxing E against Quinn so farming from a decent range if she freezes it is also really easy.  Simply don't play the lane like a moron and you'll be fine, if not just utterly dominate her like I always do.

     So..what do you do if Quinn decides to stand away from the bush and easily last hit? What if Quinn is standing in her minion wave? Also, if you double E and just walk away, Quinn is ranged, so she starts punishing you for your folly by AA, Q, E and Harrier. Also Quinns either start Dblade or Sword and 3, which probably goes into a Vamp Sceptor. Her sustain isn't actually that bad. 

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  • posted a message on Brand in a Tank Meta?
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    I only have limited experience with Brand support but I do play Vel'koz support quite a bit and it seems to me that he is better than Brand most of the time. Longer range, better/easier kiting, lower mana costs, more reliable ulti (IMO). Brand has the 2 sec stun, which is really nice when you hit it. At the very least, Velkoz is safer vs hard engage or ganks. 

     Brand has better poke and I would argue and say that against divers, Brand is the better pick simply due to a long ass stun, unlike Vel'Koz's 0.75 seconds knockup.

     Yes, but the knockup is also AOE, and can also knock the opponent away from him. Also Vel has more CC in general. Built in slows on the Q and R and his ult is more controllable and doesn't randomly hit minions. Also, his true damage scales with level, so you work better on a lower income build. 

     Velkoz's passive scales off levels, but Brand's passive scales off of ENEMY hp, so he needs neither levels nor items (often supports are underleveled too) for his passive to hurt

     His mana costs are also higher than Vel'Koz and his 1 built in CC is on a conditional single target skillshot. Also it's really not that significant considering people have MR and your ways of applying the first proc are either short ranged (e) or could aoe nuke the wave, which you might not really want

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  • posted a message on Brand in a Tank Meta?
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    I only have limited experience with Brand support but I do play Vel'koz support quite a bit and it seems to me that he is better than Brand most of the time. Longer range, better/easier kiting, lower mana costs, more reliable ulti (IMO). Brand has the 2 sec stun, which is really nice when you hit it. At the very least, Velkoz is safer vs hard engage or ganks. 

     Brand has better poke and I would argue and say that against divers, Brand is the better pick simply due to a long ass stun, unlike Vel'Koz's 0.75 seconds knockup.

     Yes, but the knockup is also AOE, and can also knock the opponent away from him. Also Vel has more CC in general. Built in slows on the Q and R and his ult is more controllable and doesn't randomly hit minions. Also, his true damage scales with level, so you work better on a lower income build. 

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  • posted a message on Thoughts on top lane Rengar

    Good Quinns will E you in the middle of your jump. It might be a little hard to time at first, but good Quinns can do it, and after you throw your bolas yoou can no longer follow up since you are now blinded and have taken hits from Harrier. Also don't fight her before level 3, since most Quinns take E first (top lane) you will have no real way to get to her and even if you do, you have just taken 2 harrier procs. 

     

    Oh, and Quinn will most likely push the lane, and she is ranged anyway, so it is hard to poke her with a skillshot bola when under tower. 

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  • posted a message on What do you find reportworthy?
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    anything that rises my blood pressure... and i have quite short fuse... i still wonder why riot didnt penalize me, for abusing reports, bcs there is barely  agame where i dont report someone... but thats bcs theres barely a game without some asshole flaming everyone...

     You don't get directly penalised for abusing reports. It's just that your reports are now worth as much as Zimbabwe's currency (that is, nothing) 

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  • posted a message on What do you find reportworthy?

    Idiocy, flaming, and intentional griefing. It's kinda sad that all the casual racism has gotten to a point where it just slides off. 

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