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I don't play Udyr, but I mean he is pretty strong... his problem is with kiting. I think it would be more interesting if on one of the abilities (say turtle stance) he got something that reduces the effectiveness to slows.  Maybe phoenix breaks slows upon switching (MELT THE ICE AWAY AND BE REBORN!?).

Anyways, I'm sure that people who actually play Udyr would know better than I do.

Thanks for the advice guys!

I am not typically a jungler. It and AD carry are the roles I typically avoided. But recently I started jungling and I have been enjoying it and have had mixed success as Sejuani, Amumu, Maokai, and Nocturne

I do typically notice though that I seem to fall behind in levels compared to the other players (on both teams).

Is this a common barrier for beginner junglers to overcome? Any advice on how to improve my jungle performance?

I think certain AD carries could make use of it. But to me, the shard of true ice just delays all the other tasty items you might want as a support.

Essentially it comes down to, does your AD carry like to spam (but not so much as to overload the mana manipulator) and will you make use of the Shard of True Ice's Active later in the game,

The gold/5 can be achieved by just sitting on a kages or going for a philo. If I had a kages I rather have one of its other upgrades anyways,

I'm sure people have been trying, but how does she work as a support compared to an AP mid?

I haven't seen much of lissandra myself and it seems if she builds like the typical mage support she could probably do fairly well considering her laning phase early is bad anyways but CC is still CC and her passive gives her essentially free harass with her abilities.

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Quinn is also better than you give her credit for. She has the ability to blind which wins duels for her. She has great burst damage, the ability to separate from initiation, and the ability to chase. I like her better than many of the ADCs who are available. Build a BotRK to enhance your burst, and watch targets drop quickly. Very easy to get fed / play safe with Quinn. 

 

I agree Quinn is also better than I give her credit for. But she isn't that much better than Vayne. Vayne scales harder, and has a hard CC. Yes blind wins duels. But ARAM teams have 5 members. What are the chances that all of them need auto-attacks to kill or stop you? Especially when you are nice enough to come close to them. I'm not saying she is below tier 3. But if she is tier 2 then Vayne needs to move up.

Warwick's mana issues for his sustain is actually surprisingly easy to deal with. Now while I don't think he would be high up, I think tier 5 is too low for him. He is fairly hard to kill, and with his E and the nature of ARAM it is really easy to run in, Q a champ and run back out. I think he would be more tier 4.

I would say you probably have Quinn too high. Yes she has maneuverability and the blind is annoying, but I think she is around the same level as Vayne. I've only seen one good Quinn so far as well. Even then I think vayne's scaling is harder and I rather have vayne's stun then have Quinn. Probably just down to tier 3.

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I think poppy gets too much credit about a "powerful late game". She has 1 real damage move in rift, an AA reset. her E is COMPLETELY pathetic, needs a wall stun or it does 125 damage with no stun. 

I think honestly, Zed completely overtakes poppy. Easier to lane, energy instead of mana, has a real escape. His ult is much more reliable, less item dependent,an untargettable gap closer. And has a higher damage boost than poppy(at the tail end instead of during the ult, its basically the same.

Honestly dont see poppy's late game. Its not leaps and bounds higher than anyone else whos fed, and her early game IS leaps and bounds worse than everyone else.

Poppy is also "ok" in dominion because theres many more walls for E, free hp mana relics, and she doesnt really "lane". But honestly, theres dozens of better champions in dominion now.

 Q is on a fairly short cool down and does % max health, you can knock people into towers and buildings, armor and MS buff, ridiculously strong passive, and best of everything ult one target, and then kill another (which ignores the rest of the teams CC). Her charge can act as a gap closer and pulls the characters away from their team so poppy can kill freely.

Yes her early game was awful, specifically her laning. She could use a little more love based on the current comparisons. But it would be very easy to make her OP if Riot is not careful.

If you doubt a late-game Poppy's power, then I would call into question whether you have truly faced a decent late-game poppy.

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Poppy, is not even mentioned. People dont ask for buffs or remakes for her on threads very often. Apparently shes just a data file in game.

I think Janna is going to make a comeback soon. AP Janna does some good damage not to mention she is one of the best supports at teamfights. AOE knockup, Nuke with a slow, sheild that gives you a free BF sword, and a Reset Fight button on her ult. Not to mention free movespeed for EVERYONE on the team as long as she is alive.