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  • posted a message on Best Jungler at snowballing himself/lanes VERY early

    A few things...

    Vi is a strong ganker pre-6 and so is Hecarim, both have amazing level 2 ganks. So I am unsure of what you mean there.

    The new Udyr is quite fun to play and has huge damage in Pheonix stance and a ridiculous clear time.

    I would not recommend Maokai as his effectiveness in carrying diminishes greatly as the game progresses.

     

    If I was you I would revisit Vi and Hecarim and maybe check out Udyr or Jarvan IV.

     

    Posted in: Competitive Play
  • posted a message on Building AP/MPen on Jungle Mundo

    So I guess in conclusion... don't do it.

    Posted in: Champions and Gameplay
  • posted a message on Building AP/MPen on Jungle Mundo

    It is still possible to build over 3k health while building MPen. I think the reasoning why people include Rylai's is for the continued proc on Burning Agony and a further slow on cleavers. 

    The clear is what I am concerned with, but, building cloth armor first he will be able to clear without dying. 

     

    Posted in: Champions and Gameplay
  • posted a message on Building AP/MPen on Jungle Mundo

    I have recently started playing Jungle Mundo quite a lot, building the standard Spirit Visage + Warmog's Route plus situational items aiming to be as tank as possible. I have read a couple guides and seen players build mundo with MPen and AP items. Particularly Haunting Guise/Liandry's and sometimes Rylai's. However, I have never seen an AP Mundo in the jungle. 

    So my questions are:

    1) General Pros/Cons of AP/MPen Mundo?

    2) Is it viable to build when jungling? (I am thinking of build routes, maybe starting cloth 5 pots instead of machete?)

    3) When is it best to build AP/MPen Mundo?

    Any other general comments are appreciated.

    Posted in: Champions and Gameplay
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