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Im not 100% sure but I think that Thresh's grab does not pull enemies over walls, so thats one reason

So is there a reason to play blitzcrank anymore? Maybe I'm blind, but I don't see something blitzcrank has over thresh significant enough to choose him over thresh :P

Look again...

Blitz has Mana Barrier, meaning he's innately more tanky early-game, his pull has more reach and pulls the target further, he has a knock-up on an incredibly short CD with a decent ratio, he has a speed boost, allowing him to get into position for hooks easier than Thresh, And an AoE silence on a rediculously short CD for an Ultimate...

That's like saying Zed and Talon are the same... (They're not)

I said anything SIGNIFICANT. Instead of a knock up, thresh has an aoe pull/knockback that is on a average CD. Thresh's ult has much more potential in teamfights, and the early mana barrier is negated by items after laning phase. After comparing abilities, thresh seems much more useful than blitzcrank throughout the game.

That grab range is EVERYTHING for Blitz. Thresh's range is average while Blitz's grab is best-in-class range which counters so many initiates and potential peels.

Just looked up stats on lolpro. Blitz's pull range is 1000 while thresh's pull range is 1075. Furthermore, while blitzcrank's pull duration is near instant, thresh's pull takes 1.5 seconds to complete, giving your allies more time to react and stunning the target for a longer duration. 

Blitz and Thresh are different champions with different playstyles: Blitz grabs you into zerg-death, while Thresh is more about diving the enemy team after forcing the initiation by pulling one target. Blitz grab missile speed is also way better (read faster). Blitz ulti is no way worst than Thresh one, since it can even interrupt channelled abilities like Kata's or Urgot's ultis for instance (it packs AoE damage and CC).

Besides, Thresh is not a rip-off of Blitz, is more a mix or Blitz and Nautilus with some unique traits (Dark Passage lantern).

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Still viable. What does thresh bring that has you so worried?

Grab is slight advantage thresh (blitz pulls though walls, thresh can pull himself).

Pop is about the same (CDR vs AoE).

Lantern vs move speed i'd say lantern, by a good bit (not that movespeed is bad).

Ult is a clear advantage for blitz (silence, free pokes, and low CDR).

Damage is about the same, but bliz can take down towers (thresh's bonus is magic).

And blitz get's a big shield.

What he said, really.

So seriously, don't overreact: Blitz is still a top tier champion, Thresh is not gonna belittle him in any way.

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I said anything SIGNIFICANT. Instead of a knock up, thresh has an aoe pull/knockback that is on a average CD. Thresh's ult has much more potential in teamfights, and the early mana barrier is negated by items after laning phase. After comparing abilities, thresh seems much more useful than blitzcrank throughout the game.

The mana barrier get's better as the game goes on, not worse.  So Blitz is easily more tanky and faster, with a better ult (silence > slow).

Thresh is certainly better in a team fight.  But less good during the lane.

But that's my point. Is the temporary 750 shield (IF he has enough mana at the time) and a .5 second silence really worth the trade off from the pure amount of utility thresh provides? If so, in what situations should one pick blitzcrank over thresh?

Sorry if I keep sounding like a sourpuss >.< I really liked blitzcrank but now he just seems overshadowed by thresh. I need to confirm if blitz is really a niche pick now or still viable. 

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But that's my point. Is the temporary 750 shield (IF he has enough mana at the time) and a .5 second silence really worth the trade off from the pure amount of utility thresh provides? If so, in what situations should one pick blitzcrank over thresh?

Sorry if I keep sounding like a sourpuss >.< I really liked blitzcrank but now he just seems overshadowed by thresh. I need to confirm if blitz is really a niche pick now or still viable. 

Still viable. What does thresh bring that has you so worried?

Grab is slight advantage thresh (blitz pulls though walls, thresh can pull himself).

Pop is about the same (CDR vs AoE).

Lantern vs move speed i'd say lantern, by a good bit (not that movespeed is bad).

Ult is a clear advantage for blitz (silence, free pokes, and low CDR).

Damage is about the same, but bliz can take down towers (thresh's bonus is magic).

And blitz get's a big shield.

After giving it more thought, I think I overreacted a little. I guess I just don't want blitzcrank to turn into something like 'thresh for poor people'. I'm going to wait a while and see how things turn out.

Looks like Hecarim

Copy-pasta champ. Another dread and dark looking guy with glowing eyes.

How many champs are like that? probably +10.

hard mode: how many have glowing eyes? (lol jk).

Im in a game with one now.....