Free Champion Rotation, Xelnath on Lore, ZenonTheStoic on Xin Zhao


Free Champion Rotation


Xelnath on Lore

Okay, serious answer: 

We are looking very seriously at our lore and background for our characters right now. Kitae would be more qualified than me to comment on the subject. 

Lore is difficult, because the way we've approached it in the past has left some character stories in a state where we can't push them forward. We want the world of Valoran to be one in which we can tell many, many more stories. 

I don't know why Syndra's in the league, but being captured does make sense. 


ZenonTheStoic on Xin Zhao

Trust me, our live design dudes are very much aware of Win Nao. There's a bunch of changes being tested on PBE, but overall what it boils down to is we're reducing base damages and increasing E and R cooldowns to reduce the amount of burst he gets even while building tanky. If that doesn't work we can adjust further.

That's cool, just please, PLEASE, promise me you won't avalanche him with nerfs like you did in S1-S2 before his rework.
I think our live design team has seriously stepped up its game. We tend to be a lot more reactive now. If we overnerf we reverse the changes, of course, but there's also that old psychological effect. One story Feralpony told me once was that we put out patch notes saying Vlad pool had lost its MS buff and received some other nerfs and Vlad was suddenly considered trash tier, with both his pick and his win rate plummeting. Problem was, the changes accidentally never went out. So after it seems like a champion was overnerfed and is trash now, we have to wait a little to make sure that's actually what happened. Remember also that Hecarim was considered weak for the longest time and has skyrocketed to the top of jungle picks now with no changes.
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Yes, of course Season 3 itemization helps him out immensely. But there was something like a 2 month gap between Season 3 items and Hecarim becoming FOTM.

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Comments

  • #15 RoGLegend

    It never surprises me that "Riot" never uses common sense. For Example: If I have Jungle 1, 2, 3 and 4. Now If I decide to nerf 2, 3, and 4. What happens to jungle 1? Well, jungle 1 becomes much better of a pick. Jungle 1 win % will rise because the match ups have become more in its favor. This is what riot has done and its completely obvious they don't understand basic balance principles. If you nerf champion "A", less-nerfed champion "B" will take its place. Its funny, xin zhao has been nerfed hard before. So his next nerf will be a "lee sin nerf".

  • #12 PK430

    As Morello said, low elo will eventually learn to against darius, Xin as well, wait wt? Darius got nerfed?

  • #11 Loinator

    Hecarim FOTM is because of SIV with him personal skin. RIOT did learn nothing.

  • #10 Goshko64

    :@ Noooo Why they all :@ I cant play with them! I go to play ranked on this week :@

  • #8 omanstrikes

    vi most op.

    fix vi first pls

  • #9 stuffedcheesybread

    Quote from omanstrikes »

    vi most op.

    fix vi first pls

    Agreed. 

  • #7 lazule2

    Finally Riot is learning!

  • #3 reathien1

    How to balance Xin Zhao:

    New charge animation - small charge up before charging target. Instant animations make for poor counter play, there's no reaction time before he's on you, which makes him hard to stop. 

    With enough time for a proper human reaction, champions who have something to stop this CAN, but with his gap closer being instant followed by a quick knock up leaves options limited and hard to pull off.

    The key part to most of league of legends is providing counter play, sadly something that happens so fast humans can't even react to it properly robs us of the chance to stop it from happening, not by a flaw of our play but just because that's how the ability works, which is wrong.

  • #14 RoGLegend

    Quote from reathien1 »

    How to balance Xin Zhao:

    New charge animation - small charge up before charging target. Instant animations make for poor counter play, there's no reaction time before he's on you, which makes him hard to stop. 

    With enough time for a proper human reaction, champions who have something to stop this CAN, but with his gap closer being instant followed by a quick knock up leaves options limited and hard to pull off.

    The key part to most of league of legends is providing counter play, sadly something that happens so fast humans can't even react to it properly robs us of the chance to stop it from happening, not by a flaw of our play but just because that's how the ability works, which is wrong.

    Xin Zhao doesn't need a balance change.

  • #2 MICHAEL419
    Hecarim went up the jungle list because jungles like Olaf, Lee Sin, Nocturne, and Skarner all getting nerfed on top of the new items. Oh yea and Vi is looking much more out of control than Xin anyways.
  • #4 GentlemanThief

    Also, he's been picked in the LCS.

  • #5 stuffedcheesybread

    He was strong before all those guys got nerfed, in fact in season 2 he was arguably  a "safer" jungler  when he could get double gold items, start boots and reach late game status by 25 minutes. People just didn't take the time to learn his mechanics and how to play him..

    Last edited by stuffedcheesybread: 2/26/2013 12:59:29 AM
  • #13 RoGLegend

    Quote from MICHAEL419 »

    Hecarim went up the jungle list because jungles like Olaf, Lee Sin, Nocturne, and Skarner all getting nerfed on top of the new items. Oh yea and Vi is looking much more out of control than Xin anyways.


    Very good post. Glad to read someone with common sense.

  • #1 scorpious1109

    Volibear, Wukong, Jax, and Olaf free? Well, guess I'm not gonna play top this week...

  • #6 Rain

    Don't worry, everyone is playing Voli jungle after the EU LCS, safe from the flips!

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