We're going to return to doing AMAs here tomorrow with the AMA for Zed, the Master of Shadows. RiotRunaan will do the honors.
This is just one way we talk with you. We also do posts in general forums, AMAs on reddit (like the recent shadow isles AMA we did) and we're investigating better ways of engaging players in other regions.
Looking forward to hearing you questions about Zed!
Why aren't answering any question about ZED?
It was the purpose of this thread, but u overlooked all of the questions related to ZED and answered one totally irrelevant.
Neat. Perhaps ya'll will start answering criticism as well as praise now too.
We answer questions. Saying "I don't like X" is not a question.
In champion AMAs we pick questions that when answered improves the understanding of who the champion is. Typically more negative questions don't get picked because usually they are bringing in non-champion issues, or saying "I don't like this champion's story" in a round about way (which is not a question about the champion).
We do want to hear when feedback (positive or negative) but phrasing feedback as a question will not get you an answer.
We used to give one liners explaining why champions joined the league. These one liners didn't really give any new information on the champion, and they weren't stories, they were one liners.
No more one liners.
Champion bios are stories, so we're going to focus on telling a great story.
I understand that players appreciate facts, and old-format bios did contain more facts, we are exploring other ways of getting facts to players outside of the bio.
I was just wondering why all those chapters upon chapters of League smut I sent over weren't in the client yet. As the newly-elected president of.... something, I'm pretty sure those Renekton/Ahri fics are canon. Actually they were canon already, I just want to show the world how pure and freaky our love is.
Please regard.
To whom it may concern.
Renekton Bot and Shyvana are, like, officially dating. Ahri thinks he's kind of gross. Scales...ewww....
But... I like facts. Not as substitute of a story, but facts were nice. The judgments allowed both a story and a fact. Also, you said Facts a lot.
That's a fact.
The bottom line is my focus is on getting out great stories to players, not on getting facts out. Facts are great (did I mention I like saying facts?) but they tend to result in a demand for more facts. It becomes a factpocalypse (I just invented a word). Your post shows this - you asked a bunch of great questions. I could respond to each point with an... answer .... but it would generally just spiral out into more questions.
Now I'm not saying we should never answer questions, of course we should, but my focus is more on building redicuawesome (I invented another word) stories. The Shadow Isles was step 1 in that direction. If you liked the specter VO in the TT map, or the Elise login lore, that is the start of where we are trying to take lore development.
I also do want to release more prose, maybe even novels one day.
Patience please, I know it's hard, but that's what we're working towards.
You raise some excellent points forgive me for snipping out a few key ones, I'm going to address them all in one comment.
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Originally Posted by Gixia
In a champion's bio, you should be telling me why I care about this champion. Why I should support him, choose to summon him, and why he would want to be summoned (especially as you're moving away from champions who are imprisoned and used against their will, it becomes more vital to establish why they would agree to participate).
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Originally Posted by Gixia
Why should I care that Kha'Zix and Rengar want to kill one another? The illusory nature of Summoner's Rift, the fact that defeated champions are revived, impossible to permanently kill on the fields of justice, it means their conflict will never be resolved there, and thus, why should I care about it?
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Originally Posted by Gixia
But there isn't. There is only LoL, and in LoL, their conflict is not only irrelevant, it's detrimental, because instead of making the world feel larger and more cohesive, it just feels detached and inconsequential. I've raised this issue before and never received a proper response, but honestly, it feels like you do not actually want to be making stories for LoL. It's as though you're happy to be making stories for Runeterra as a whole, but are actively pushing away from the actual League upon which the game takes its name.
So the short answer is, we are very interested in telling stories that do not reflect the gameplay of League of Legends. You ask why is the conflict between Rengar and Kha'zix relevant when they can't die in the fields of justice? The answer is, because they can die outside of the fields of justice, and if we tell more stories about their conflict they will undoubtedly occur outside of Summoner's Rift.
I'm not saying we won't tell stories involving summoners rift, twisted treeline, etc. but we are absolutely interested in telling stories outside of the gameplay experience we already know and love. We think the biggest opportunity for stories lies there.
For example - what is the real history between Garen and Katarina? That's a story I'd love to tell, and it has nothing to do with Summoners or the Fields of Justice.
A big part of what we are trying to do with creative is create characters who have interesting stories to tell outside of the League.
Kit, what about older champions that didn't get any AMA or new lore or even a judgement. I really want to know more about Nautilus and what the dark waters are, why he was changed instead of killed or something.
Will we ever get some more info on him?
Alright, so, I finally got the answer I've been waiting for, and indeed it's the one I suspected it would be, albeit not the one I wanted.
So a follow-up question. Do you feel that putting distance between the story and the gameplay makes the game better?
No, but it makes the stories better becuase it gives us more options for storytelling.
Your own posts point out that a blood feud between Rengar and Kaz'zix doesn't make sense if they are fighting in the fields of justice where neither can "truly" die. This is one example of a type of story we'd be unable to tell if we focused narrative on the Fields of Justice.
Champion AMAs returning
We're going to return to doing AMAs here tomorrow with the AMA for Zed, the Master of Shadows. RiotRunaan will do the honors.
This is just one way we talk with you. We also do posts in general forums, AMAs on reddit (like the recent shadow isles AMA we did) and we're investigating better ways of engaging players in other regions.
Looking forward to hearing you questions about Zed!
It was the purpose of this thread, but u overlooked all of the questions related to ZED and answered one totally irrelevant.
In champion AMAs we pick questions that when answered improves the understanding of who the champion is. Typically more negative questions don't get picked because usually they are bringing in non-champion issues, or saying "I don't like this champion's story" in a round about way (which is not a question about the champion).
We do want to hear when feedback (positive or negative) but phrasing feedback as a question will not get you an answer.
No more one liners.
Champion bios are stories, so we're going to focus on telling a great story.
I understand that players appreciate facts, and old-format bios did contain more facts, we are exploring other ways of getting facts to players outside of the bio.
I was just wondering why all those chapters upon chapters of League smut I sent over weren't in the client yet. As the newly-elected president of.... something, I'm pretty sure those Renekton/Ahri fics are canon. Actually they were canon already, I just want to show the world how pure and freaky our love is.
Please regard.
Renekton Bot and Shyvana are, like, officially dating. Ahri thinks he's kind of gross. Scales...ewww....
The bottom line is my focus is on getting out great stories to players, not on getting facts out. Facts are great (did I mention I like saying facts?) but they tend to result in a demand for more facts. It becomes a factpocalypse (I just invented a word). Your post shows this - you asked a bunch of great questions. I could respond to each point with an... answer .... but it would generally just spiral out into more questions.
Now I'm not saying we should never answer questions, of course we should, but my focus is more on building redicuawesome (I invented another word) stories. The Shadow Isles was step 1 in that direction. If you liked the specter VO in the TT map, or the Elise login lore, that is the start of where we are trying to take lore development.
I also do want to release more prose, maybe even novels one day.
Patience please, I know it's hard, but that's what we're working towards.
I'm not saying we won't tell stories involving summoners rift, twisted treeline, etc. but we are absolutely interested in telling stories outside of the gameplay experience we already know and love. We think the biggest opportunity for stories lies there.
For example - what is the real history between Garen and Katarina? That's a story I'd love to tell, and it has nothing to do with Summoners or the Fields of Justice.
A big part of what we are trying to do with creative is create characters who have interesting stories to tell outside of the League.
Will we ever get some more info on him?
So a follow-up question. Do you feel that putting distance between the story and the gameplay makes the game better?
Your own posts point out that a blood feud between Rengar and Kaz'zix doesn't make sense if they are fighting in the fields of justice where neither can "truly" die. This is one example of a type of story we'd be unable to tell if we focused narrative on the Fields of Justice.