We need a freaking badass female champion archtype.
Let me finish.
Ahri, Leona, Diana, Shyvanna, Fiora, Elise, Syndra, Sejuani, Riven, Karma, Cailyn, Irelia, Zyra, Nami.
With very few exceptions (most notably Lulu), tons of recent female champs strike as a character who, if not heroic, is (or once was) either respectable (society-wise), refined, elegant, graceful, honorable / seeks honor (and/or respect).
I mean, just look at their character.
In light of all recent the feminism posts about female champions,
I dare you to find at least 3 recent female champions that dose not fit into the categories I just gave.
<EDIT>: People, when i say RECENT,
I am NOT looking for TWO YEAR OLD CHAMPIONS
(IE: Sivir, Katarina, Nidalee, Poppy, etc)
They were made in a time when Riot had much more to explore with their genres of female characters.
I'm only trying to raise awareness of some types we might be missing/want more of.
When I say recent, I mean anything within this year. (11/19/2011 and beyond)
<Edit / VERY Late PS>
Upon reading replies, I think I made a mistake in defining "badass" (my apologies, this is kinda 18 pages too late XD).
When I said badass earlier, I had more of a youthful + energeticly rebellious/rash connotation attached to the word when I was typing this. Kinda like Revy from Black Lagoon, or a female with a Zigg's expression turned down a couple of notches. I am now a little bit wiser.
Now that I think about it, I think my point with the female champions I listed would be better illustrated if I said, "These females all show little to no youthful energy/rebeliousness/rashness in a badass manner." (If that makes more sense to you)
I don't know what your definition of badass is, but mine is THIS
I mean, come ON.
This is League of LEGENDS.
Raw, crude, unrefined, fiery antagonists are born from legends too.
I think that is the type of female champion we need. Do you not agree, IronStylus? Morello?
Quote:^^^^ Readability of being female is not a necessary characteristic. There's nothing inherently wrong with it, but it isn't necessary, and the sooner designers get away from thinking it is, the better, since they'll open themselves up for more varied designs.
At this point I'll settle for just a woman in heavy, Darius/Garen style armor. The only thing we have currently that approaches that is Defender Leona (who has heels) and maaaaaaaaaaaaaaybe darkflame Shyvana (boob window) or ironscale Shyvana (which makes her bizarrely skinny limbs even more obvious). No other version of Leona counts. Bonus points if she uses a halberd, but that's just because I like halberds.
You know, something like dark rider Sejuani should have been until she mysteriously wasn't according to IronStylus.
Quote:Given Morello's rather disturbing comments and IronStylus spewing the same boilerplate he always does with little to show for it ("They were already in development" can only be stretched for so long when this discussion has been popping up for years), I'm beginning to question whether Riot actually is motivated to change their design practices.
I've been at the forefront of this discussion for 2 years now, actively involved in not only the production but the externally facing affairs. Yet apparently the knowledge and comprehension of our little developer world is so grasped by your infinite certainty that you can accurately ascertain the timelines that should be adhered to and the moral fortitude to hand us our directives.
I'm actually offended that you can question my character or treat my words as excuses. I've been nothing but transparent and a stalwart activist in these matters. Recognize that. The course of this debate has shifted dramatically, in a positive direction over the course of two years. You do nothing but reverse the tone of it's course. I'm pretty sick of the withering away of perspective of how I in particular have helped to further the variety and equality cause. I don't have to stick my neck out, but I do. Even when I am in no way responsible for content that comes through the pipe. I choose to make this a cause of mine.
I won't clash swords with the merits of your stances but I will absolutely dismiss your over-generalizing certainty. Your accusations are not only baseless but they are incorrect. I can stand a differing point of view, though I actually agree with you, but the way in which you cast judgement with such fundamentalist fervor makes your points meaningless to me.
I rarely respond to posts like yours, I believe in promoting positive behavior, but I'm reaching my limit.
Check your attitude. That's something I'd like to communicate across the board.
This is my choice, not my responsibility.
This is a group of people who are grouping Diana in with the other characters for no reason, despite massive differences in multiple areas. The fact that you came did exactly what you said you were going to do with Diana is excellent grounding for your word, imo.
If I do not show my drive and passion for this via my actions my words are meaningless.