How buffs should help Nautilius and Rammus ?

  • Nautilius :

    *Starting item : machete , 5 pots
    *Road : 3x,Blue,4x,Red,3x,4x low low low hp... can't gank need back to base ( not going for golems too strong)

    Clear Time ... So slow that you don't even wanna know .. ( and let me remind you , he had already slow jungle in S2)




    Rammus:
    *Starting item: what a suprize again machete , 5 pots
    *Road : the same as Nautilius
    *Clear time not so good , Low HP need back to base... Behind with lvls , starving with gold. Need spend money on HP pots



    Im not complain about new Jungle. I Was happy when i heard jungle gonna be almost like in season 1 but Dear Riot do something with some junglers... because it's not FUN land with LOW hp and do nothing and be BEHIND with lvls almost behind the duo lane..



    Any other thoughts anyone ? maby words of help how to not fall behind... because i want help sometimes with gank but im unable to..
  • When I went bot lane at level 5, they were level 4 (as Nautilus). Wolves->blue->wraiths->wolves->red->golems-> base

    Edit: also, W E W Q

    Edit 2: I also accidentally had my support mastery page, because of last min role swaps.
  • Quote:
    Originally Posted by Coltaine00 View Post
    Griftrix, did you recall to base? It sounds like you did.
    Yeah, in my recollection after golems. I'll do another run tonight as Naut and pay closer attention to my base and buys so I can give a more detailed report. I know I based before 5, but I also know I was level 5 when the lane was level 4, and that was cool.
  • Quote:
    Originally Posted by Letkhar View Post
    They were level 4 and they hadn't placed any wards yet?
    Nah, they totally saw me coming but Nautilus is good at.... diving

    Edit: I didn't kill anyone.
  • Quote:
    Originally Posted by 2pudge1cup View Post
    since machete adds 10 flat true damage attack speed is vital for just about anyone you wanna jungle.
    I use attack speed reds on Nautilus....
  • Quote:
    Originally Posted by XuWarrior View Post
    Rammus:
    *Starting item: what a suprize again machete , 5 pots
    *Road : the same as Nautilius
    *Clear time not so good , Low HP need back to base... Behind with lvls , starving with gold. Need spend money on HP pots
    I'm still trying to figure out what works best for Rammus, but here is what I'm currently experimenting with:

    0/21/9
    AS marks, Armor seals, MR glyphs, Armor quints
    W, Q, W, E, W, R... R > W > E > Q
    Start: Cloth armor / 5 pots
    Get glacial shroud asap

    My theory is that getting that glacial shroud asap increases your damage (from Rammus' passive) to prevent your clear time from going too low, gives you enough armor where the jungle tickles you, and the CD/Mana don't hurt either. It also sets you up for a late game item that is really beneficial to the team.

    Also, I've found that people really underestimate the "burst" you do from your auto attacks with that much armor and with Defensive Curl leveled up, which is why I still find my ganks successful despite not maxing E first.

    Edit: Full Metal Rammus is neccesary as well