Did they take away the stun when you headbutt into a wall with Alistar? Cause I just played a game and it didnt stun once. He feels like a completely different champ almost. :/
When I fixed up tenacity, I also went through all of the knockbacks and knockups to make them consistent.
Alistar's "headbutt into a wall" not clearing the temporary stun was the only one left from this category of bugs that had been fixed a while back. We discussed it briefly and ended up removing it, since Alistar still had his Q+W combo.
That said, I thought this wasn't going in until next patch. Thanks for the heads up, I'll investigate.
Sucks that you guys are getting rid of it. Takes a bunch out of his ability in longer fights/trades bot. Feels like it takes away the reward of proper positioning on his W.
If it turns out that Alistar is a problem, we can give power back in some form, but I would defer to the live design team on this.
I'm happy to help. I rebuilt all of the knockbacks and knockups in the game in late December. It's not all bugs though: If you get knocked up while running away from the enemy, the game should no longer forget your move command part of the time.
Exceptions to this are huge pull-towards and flings, like Singed, Thresh and Blitzcrank.
If you find more bugs, please start a thread and let me know!
Speaking of knockups, in this video, jarvan's knockup seems to knock katarina a little to the side. Since it's on the PBE I figured it might not be worth a new thread, just wondering what might be causing it.
Apologies if this has been asked/answered already but I'm checking out this thread on my phone on lunch. Did Poppy's Heroic Charge get similarly nerfed? She's already little more than a niche character...
Also, could you make sure that the Headbutt tooltip gets updated or made more clear?
Thanks!
Edit: fixed name. Is it sad that my phone autocorrects to "Xerath"? :x
Spells which intentionally stun upon hitting a wall (Vayne's Impale, Poppy Charge) should not be affected by this change.
It also looks like Lulu R was unintentionally buffed by the same amount Jarvan IV was accidentally nerfed.
I choose to believe that Lulu and J4 got into a fight over my spreadsheet one night, late at Riot HQ and Lulu stole his powers.
Please give an ETA for when the fix would be. Especially for Jarvan players, the E-Q knockup is a core in lane harass. If you were to lower the duration of the knock-up, there is no way for him to trade in any way because they recover too quickly and whack you in addition to minions pummeling you.
I just commited a fix for both J4's Q knockup being too weak and Lulu's R knockaway being too strong.
We'll need some QA time to verify it, then the release team will need to decide if/when it goes live. When I hear more, I'll update you.
So you didnt check information to see it will be a problem? This was one of the 2 things why Alistar was even picked at all...now you will have another month to see that no1 is playing him? Great job (irony!!!)
Hey, I totally understand why you're upset with this. It wasn't intended to be left out of the patch notes, I thought it was going in next patch, not this one. My bad, and I apologize.
Because this patch happened on a Friday, players are just now discovering these changes and most of the teams are at home relaxing after a stressful patch week.
We will probably put a half second stun back on the W, but I defer to Statikk and Geeves if they want to do something more drastic, as they are the experts in this area.
Alistar headbutt
Alistar's "headbutt into a wall" not clearing the temporary stun was the only one left from this category of bugs that had been fixed a while back. We discussed it briefly and ended up removing it, since Alistar still had his Q+W combo.
That said, I thought this wasn't going in until next patch. Thanks for the heads up, I'll investigate.
Sucks that you guys are getting rid of it. Takes a bunch out of his ability in longer fights/trades bot. Feels like it takes away the reward of proper positioning on his W.
... and in the spell data it is 0.5 sec knockup.
This is entirely my fault. I apologize. I'll get it fixed for the next patch.
Exceptions to this are huge pull-towards and flings, like Singed, Thresh and Blitzcrank.
If you find more bugs, please start a thread and let me know!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7vv4UvEWwE
I'm seeing a 75 unit lateral knockback with a 0.75 upwards knockup.
Apologies if this has been asked/answered already but I'm checking out this thread on my phone on lunch. Did Poppy's Heroic Charge get similarly nerfed? She's already little more than a niche character...
Also, could you make sure that the Headbutt tooltip gets updated or made more clear?
Thanks!
Edit: fixed name. Is it sad that my phone autocorrects to "Xerath"? :x
It also looks like Lulu R was unintentionally buffed by the same amount Jarvan IV was accidentally nerfed.
I choose to believe that Lulu and J4 got into a fight over my spreadsheet one night, late at Riot HQ and Lulu stole his powers.
We'll need some QA time to verify it, then the release team will need to decide if/when it goes live. When I hear more, I'll update you.
Because this patch happened on a Friday, players are just now discovering these changes and most of the teams are at home relaxing after a stressful patch week.
We will probably put a half second stun back on the W, but I defer to Statikk and Geeves if they want to do something more drastic, as they are the experts in this area.