AP Tier List - Updated May 1st

So what I've done here is put them back into a traditional tier list with 4 tiers. You can reference the other tier list for placement moves as you'll be able to compare champion placements and below I'll explain why I moved them.

Bolded and Italic champions in the tier lists are the ones that have been moved

AP Carries:

Tier 1: Cassiopeia, Ryze, Morgana, Ahri, Lulu, Vladimir, Anivia, Kennen, Karthus, Galio,

Tier 2: Twisted Fate, Zilean, Veigar, Gragas, Rumble, Annie, Viktor, Sion, Mordekaiser,

Tier 3: Swain, LeBlanc, Xerath, Fizz, Orianna, Kog'Maw, Kassadin, Lux, Ziggs,

Tier 4: Brand, Malzahar, Katarina, Akali, Heimerdinger,


Lulu moved up in tier 1: Now I know you guys don't agree with this but even with the changes to Lulu I still feel she's incredibly powerful as a top lane solo, a mid lane, a support, and can even be played viably in the jungle. The champion is so incredibly versatile that she can literally play every role in the game successfully. Her CC is high, her damage is high, her ability to support is amazing, her ability to survive is incredibly. She excels at everything and despite the little nerfs I feel she's still a powerhouse that's being underestimated by a lot of people. This is my personal opinion of course but it's just how I feel about Lulu.

Ahri moved up in tier 1: Ahri is definitely a powerhouse that I had sitting a little bit too low. She doesn't have a low point during the game. Her strength continues through-out the game and she even scales quite well into late game.

Anivia moved up in tier 1: I moved our ice chicken up a little bit as I believe I was underestimating her power before. After watching some EU teams use her in streams and such it's apparent that she's a very powerful AP carry and I had her sitting a bit too low is all.

Rumble moved down to tier 2: I still think Rumble is a very strong champion but when comparing him to the others in tier 1 I just don't see him competing with them. You guys were right and I had him too high. Moved him down to tier 2 where he's a little bit more comfortable.

Galio moved down in tier 1: Still think he's great. Still think he's tier 1 worthy. Just felt that others can come before him in a competitive AP tier list.

Leblanc moved down to tier 3: Tier 2 was a bit too high for this girl. When I actually broke the tier list back into real tiers and I was a bit shocked that she was the top of tier 2. Her burst is great and her survivability is one of the highest in the game but tier 2 isn't where she belongs imo. She's more of a counter pick for AP middles rather then a first pick where as a lot of tier 1 and tier 2 champions you can pick as your first or second picks and be fine. LeBlanc I feel isn't as valued and can't provide as much as one of those champions so I've moved her down.

Kog'Maw moved down to tier 3: Now I am a big fan of AP Kog middle but alas he is countered by a lot of stuff and is more specific to a team comp then just generally running him all the time. So because of that I've moved him down because of his viability not being as good as others.

Fizz moved down to tier 3: Kinda the same feeling I had for Kog'Maw on this one. He's good but I think there's a time and a place for picking him. So because of that I've moved him down.

Mordekaiser moved up to tier 2: HEUHEUHUE MORDE ES #2, yeah yeah yeah. I moved him up from my initial placement. A farmed Mordekaiser is a scary, scary thing to deal with and it just so happens that when pro players play him they almost always get farmed. I was having a little too much solo queue bias going on I think when placing this Brazilian legend and when treating him more like a competitive pick he seems a lot more viable. So because of that I've moved him up.

Zilean moved up to tier 2: People underestimate the power of Zilean a lot. People forget about him all the time. Then out of the blue you'll see a Zil back in action and dominating everything. I did kinda the same thing in my first tier list. I forgot about the power of him in lane, and the power of his utility in a team fight. So because of that I've moved him up where he belongs.

Akali moved down in tier 4: Despite getting some love I just don't feel she's that great in competitive play other then a few niche counter roles on a team.

Swain moved up to tier 3: OH MY GOD, SWAIN TIER 3, ELEMENTZ WHY YOU SO CRAZY, I GO 11-0 WITH SWAIN EVVVVERYDAY! Well that's nice but again it was the first tier list out in a very long time and I overlooked some stuff. Swain can be played viably top lane by a lot of people and can even do well mid vs a lot of champions too. I do feel he's more of a counter pick to a lot of champions rather then a first pick or second pick when deciding who you want to pick. However I feel that he is a counter to a lot of competitive champions so because of that I am placing him at the top of tier 3. (:3)


The definition of an AP carry:

- These champions are focused around dealing magic damage which is based on "Ability Power" for how much extra damage they'll deal. They focus on casting spells for their damage output versus auto attacking.

- These champions predominantly play middle lane as it's the safest lane to play in game as it's the hardest lane to gank. Often these champions need a lot of farm so they can carry hence them soloing middle lane to get as much farm as possible.

- Some of these champions can also be played top lane but for the most part they will be middle lane.

Don't see a champion listed in the tier list who you consider a good competitive AP carry? It's probably because I don't and other competitive teams don't value them as competitive picks. Want to raise an argument for why a certain champion should be considered for the competitive list just post below and let me know why in a constructive way!

"No one, not even pros, can presume to know everything. Whether they promote or discourage a character is subject to debate at all times. These debates are encouraged in a respectful manner as we're trying to create the best tier lists possible for your enjoyment." Stonewall - Elementz




    FIDDLESTICKS??? Wow you are a noob.

  • SpicyD

    Why is orianna in tier three? You can farm with her very well because of her passive, she can save people with her shield, and herself, and also her ultimate not only does amazing damage, but it has good CC with it as well. And how many times in the world championship last month did you see orianna go mid? If i remember correctly, or at least for the games i saw, she was mid every time. So someone, feel free to tell me why I'm wrong.

  • Plutoburns

    I find that Malzahar is too low on this list. The fact that his Ultimate is countered by an item is a problem, so he will never be top tier. But the value of his kit is not to be ignored. His malefic visions gives him some of the best mana sustain in lane and devastating pushing power. His call of the void gives him great range allowing him to safely harass some very tough champs (cass has real problems with it). Null zone has great damage late game and allows Malz to melt tanky characters. His ult, even beyond the damage of his combo, gives him great power. The supression is terrifying for high mobility characters and makes Malz absolutely devastating in a one on one. The only reason I can imagine that he is so low is how few people play him. His strength easily justifies a tier 3 spot. 

    Also, Fizz seems a bit low. I can't back this up, but I find a well played fizz to be terrifiying. 

    Any chance you can put AP Karma on this list? You've got lulu. 

  • Joaneh

    I feel like AP ezreal should be in there somewhere... It would be great if you could add him, specially since he might actually get a buff next patch (still unsure since the official patch notes weren't yet released).

    Last edited by Joaneh on 6/3/2012 1:38:01 PM
  • Ins1nity

    Orianna defenitly needs a higher place, she can gank pretty good, give speed boosts, give a shield and disrupt enemy's in teamfights. And her damage is verry high, but nobody plays her so nobody knows it.

  • Incendiaryspade

    Put fiddle on the list please. It doesnt even matter if you put him tier 5 by himself. He deserves to be ON the list. was good in lane before, and they buffed his lane last patch

  • chainpullz

    I'm pretty sure kogmaw should be much higher than tier 3. Even though he only fits into so many comps, he is a complete monster within those comps. I know recently hes been picked or banned in most games due to his ability to completely shut down karthas comps and due to him having the best poke in the game at the moment.


  • tehwhiteboi

    Why is veigar so low? He nukes everything (and i mean everything) if you are good at csing w/ his Q you get godly ap, and even if you are shut down, as long as you can farm, you still becomes very deadly. He has an easy escappe w/ his stun, as long as you dont over extend and waste stuns you are easily able to avoid ganks, if you are farmed enough you can just kill ganked.


  • NicknameMy

    Well, after the latest matches you should move kog up again. He destroys teams lategame so hard. No other AP-Carry can accomplish that damage in combination with that range. While in solo queue he isn't viable, in competetive, with people protecting him, he becomes so strong.

    Last edited by NicknameMy on 5/24/2012 3:33:36 AM
  • Wh1terain

    I would not place ahri as a Tier 1 pick. At least not that high up, while she is definitely strong. She can easily be counter picked in competitive play (veigar comes to mind here). All you need is someone that can lock her down and/or silence her and she loses that huge advantage of mobility.

  • UnleashChaos

    Laning phase isn't the only thing that matters when making such lists.

  • Keaton18

    You can use quick silver sash to get out of veigars stun which means you dodge his W. Veigar can get countered by items, some champs have moves that jump out of the bowl, plus flash. I know that a well placed stun can instantly stun them, its just QSS is amazing against any veigar. Thats why he is so low

  • Brusovbis

    Hello guys ! 

    Just woundering a few things :
    Why are Brand and Malz in the Tier 4 ? I feel like Brand is a huge teamfighter and still a good laner, and malz is completely broken on the laning phase. 
    Kog Maw AP is in the list, But Ezreal isn't. I feel he is a viable AP, like Master Yi, even if they are not the best they deserve a place among the list, just like K-M  no ? Or is there a reason ?

    Thanks for reading and maybe for taking the time to answer ^^
    See you on the European Fields !


  • UnleashChaos

    Brand:  Fairly good laning phase, if he gets a kill he can snowball his lane out. However, he has two major problems :  No reliable escape, and a sporadic gameplay. What I mean by sporadic is all his cooldowns are fairly high and thus if he can be easily taken down if his positioning is not godlike. Also, in draft, people will just walk away from each others when a Brand ults on them.

    Malzahar: His laning phase is only dominant because of the ease he has to rapidly take out his opponent. However, he pushes --too-- much, thus he's weak to ganks (he also has no escape abilities). That being said, his biggest problem is his single-target focused kit that doesn't let him bring alot in teamfights. He can be 10-0 in lane and still not be able to carry very well.

  • TiiiMMY

    I feel like fiddlesticks is extremely undervalued. Especially when playing him in lane.

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