AD Carry Tier List - May 28th

AD Carries: 

Tier 1: Kog'Maw, Corki, Ashe, Graves , Urgot,

Tier 2: Vayne, Sivir, Ezreal, Caitlyn,

Tier 3: Tristana, Varus, Miss Fortune, Kayle, Kennen

Tier 4: Twisted Fate, Twitch


Varus has been placed into tier 3- I believe Varus to have a very strong laning phase but doesn't scale very well into late game and I feel a lot of competitive AD carries need to do that. Now you might say Ashe doesn't either and you'd be right but I feel her utility is just so strong with that global arrow and the ability to kite for herself that she outshines Varus completely. He's got some good burst, some decent poke, and his CC ain't half bad, but I feel he's just alright overall.

Definition of AD Carries:

- These champions are based off auto attacking. They deal the vast majority of their damage through their basic attacks.

- These champions are found in the bottom lane for the most part but sometimes a Bruiser and the AD / Support will swap top and bottom lane to give the other team some confusion and this is often done to counter a strong enemy bruiser.

- Support champions often accompany AD carries to help them farm and protect them.

Don't see a champion listed in the tier list who you consider a good competitive AD Carry? It's probably because I don't and other competitive teams don't value them as competitive picks. Want to raise an argument for why a certain champion should be considered for the competitive list just post below and let me know why in a constructive way!

"No one, not even pros, can presume to know everything. Whether they promote or discourage a character is subject to debate at all times. These debates are encouraged in a respectful manner as we're trying to create the best tier lists possible for your enjoyment." Stonewall - Elementz



  • #22 Markd03151997

    Sue me, but I actually AD carry Jax regularly.  And because Jax is underplayed bot, it works.  Well.  My last match I went 20/0/13.  No lie.

  • #21 Buddhakingpen

    I just saw your support list elementz, and it seems that you are leaning towards kill lanes. Since you are, you should reevaluate Twisted Fate. you know those moments where a support blitz lands a pull, knockup under a turret, only to have them flash away? not with a tf stun. thats about 2 extra turret shots which is fatal early on. ali's displacement skills combined with the burst of Stacked deck, and the chain cc of ali and tf will take anyone in lane from full to about 1/8 life in one combo, if not outright kill them, even if ali maxes his e before his q. he only has that 15% aspd steroid, but thats more than some of the highest champs on that list, who have none. and his endgame is better than most, due to his stun alone. fully itemized, it only takes an ad carry about 2 seconds to drop anyway when focused, so if he can focus one down and land a stun on them its over.He could 1v1 any carry on that list and win. think about it. ashes only escape is her ult's stun. tf has that every four seconds. The global map awareness he gives a team is invaluable. he can pick off stragglers, he can stop a chase by red carding a safe minion...too much utility, high 1v1 potential, chain cc with kill lanes. global map awareness.ability to peel for himself, MUCH higher than the worst ad in the game. Just try him with a kill lane. even morg and fiddles work well with him. 

  • #20 user_621210

    Why is Urgot in this list? He should be in the bruiser list.  Urgot is not an ad carry.  If he's auto attacking a lot then hes doing is job wrong.  He should be using his R on the enemy carry and have tanky dps items on to be able to survive even longer when he swaps.  With this he should be able to use his E and Q the carries to death. You could build him like an ad carry, but then his abilities are going to waste.  He wouldn't want to be using his R since he'd be wrecked down after the 3 secs of decent protection.  His W and E would still be useful but you wouldn't use his Q as much since he'd want to be auto-attacking since it can crit and would be attacking faster then attempting to spam his Q.  Urgot all in all is a Bruiser, meant to absorb damage but also dish it with his abilities.  If you read the guide at the end of this, bigfatcow explains it pretty well in his urgot guide.

  • #19 Azncrackfox

    Add AD Oriana, she brings great utility to team as well as a steady dps. Her shield leads to a lot of bait-kills and she can sustain well.


  • #17 CaterpillarCake

    are twitch and kayle still considered that low after taking into account running a kill lane bot and putting kayle top or twitch jungle?  or is this a list that wont take that into account?

    kayles top is very good.
    twitchs jungle is very good. 

    Last edited by CaterpillarCake: 6/4/2012 10:06:35 AM
  • #18 nicodvante

    I had an earlier post about Kayle, but unfortunately no reply to that. =/  Don't think Elementz has gotten a chance to review it yet.

  • #16 A2ZOMG

    I'm not sure why people are sleeping on Sivir.  Sivir arguably has what is the strongest laning phase of all the AD carries, and utility lategame that is pretty much only surpassed by Ashe, while in exchange being a very respectable carry in terms of raw damage output due to her AOE damage and autoattack reset as well as AS AND mobility steroids.

    Granted she's probably by far the most difficult AD carry in the game to play because she requires incredibly good reaction time and reflexes, but why Graves is considered better than her competitively I'm not sure I really understand.

    Last edited by A2ZOMG: 6/1/2012 12:16:46 PM
  • #15 nilof

    I'm not sure about varus being above MF. Varus's laning phase relies on the opponent not dodging his shots. AD kennen can sustain his poke indefintely and is just as... "stunning". Varus only does well if the rest of his team does in my experience, due to his snowbally passive.

  • #14 Fatestayjedi

    Why is Vayne tier 2 if kog is tier 1?In tournaments where each team picked one or the other it's not like kog always won...I'd say it was an even win rate for them.Their damage is pretty much the same.I'd say vayne's early is better than kog's.Vayne get's rolling faster than Kog when fed.If enemy team doesn't have oracle Vayne will just wreck with her ulti.If kog's team fail to prevent anyone from jumping on kog it's almost certainly over for him.While vayne has her stealth and knockback/stun to rely on if that happens.And with kog if jax,noc or other bruiser with a gap closer gets close kog is either dead or has used flashe/cleanse.With vayne the bruisers don't always have an oracle so she can just kite with her ulti and q really well,not to mention she has a knockback,if she has good positioning she can stun the enemy and the team will burst them down.Plus vayne can 1vX better than kog,and I mean REALLY FREAKING better.

    Yeah I'm a Vayne fanboy but those are legit reasons why I think vayne should be on Tier 1. or kog should be in Tier2 then.

  • #13 porkghop

    I'm wondering where does Teemo fall

  • #11 Supreme12

    How is Tristana Tier 3?

    She has the strongest lategame out of every AD carry.

  • #12 MasakanSolaris

    Quote from Supreme12 »

    How is Tristana Tier 3?

    She has the strongest lategame out of every AD carry.

    Elementz just doesn't appriciate her I guess.

  • #10 nicodvante

    Does Kayle's position on the tier list reflect her viability as nunu/kayle on bot lane and (especially) Kayle solo top?  I'm referring to straight ad Kayle and not hybrid  (I believe this is both the way she is built now and the stronger build).  Kayle does counter a good deal of popular champions top, has an ult that can change the outcome of team fights, and has some 2k representation.

    Last edited by nicodvante: 5/29/2012 12:11:02 PM
  • #9 emosaurusrex

    Lol@MF being T3 after buffs.

  • #7 KonstantinosPrime

    i feel that urgot should be tier 2 rather than tier 1. maily because he doesnt do as much as the others in tier 1, neither he scales as well as the others

  • #6 MrKlondike

    I have to say that I think all the AD carries in general are the most balanced that they've been for a while. Even those that are lower like Miss Fortune still can compete with those in Tier 1, like Kog'maw.

  • #5 pagan4life

    really? urgot above caitlyn?

  • #8 ApolonsWrath

    Urgot is at the moment the top pick for AD carry in tournaments. Competitive tier list is all about tournaments. And Caitlyn isn't popular right now competitively.

  • #4 MetalzFish

    Oh man oh man, big changes there. >_>

  • #3 DarkSoulRC

    Good stuff, although I think Varus might be a tad higher. His early game is incredible, especially with a CC support like Leona or Blitz, and often the game doesn't get to extremely late. He does fall off later, but not terribly. Late game I'd say he is about as useful as Ashe, damage wise, but his early game is just too awesome. This is coming from a solo Q perspective, though. I'm sure in a tournament setting he wouldn't be picked over any of the tier 1 champs. There is a big difference between the two settings and I know personally that Varus just wrecks solo Q.

    The rest is pretty much perfect! Good to see the lists getting chiseled down and refined.

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