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I mained karma for quite a while and she definitely deserves the bottom spot on this list.
Her laning phase is fine, but her lategame/teambattle utility is pretty much 0.  She can't really initiate like alistar or leona either so a tank build is worthless.  Her heal/shield combined doesnt compare to the survivability of 1 soraka heal.
What truly makes her the bottom of the list is simply a lack of utility.

I also play support gp quite a bit and I can attest that it is better than karma.  and annie can stun,  also morgana should be on this list too with her ult/snare and her dmg is pretty good for supports.

What kind of buff could make karma viable?
Maybe if spirit bond had longer range? Or if it could attach to towers/wards?  Slightly stronger heal?
But the buff I would really like to see is if the units caught between spirit bond were stunned and a mantra spirit bond would stun for longer. 

I can't believe I made an account, but I had to make a case for Karma. 

Karma is a very bad bot lane support, I won't deny that. Her heal is not always available, her slow is weak unless boosted with a precious mantra charge, and all her attacks are AOE so she pushes lane. But putting her after Gangplank and Annie is just mean.

I will attest that Karma is best used as a top laner. This is for 2 reasons. 1. Karma needs farm(another reason she is bad bot lane) 2. She is unexpectedly durable.

When top lane, Karma's heal, shield and speed buff/debuff make her a very sustainable laner. She has little kill power without a gank, but is a good gank partner. She can also punish missing lane opponents. Her AOE spells must be managed so that she doesn't push lane normally, but when she wants to she can amass a huge minion wave at a turret. Karma should have little trouble holding top lane until about lvl 11. Then she should make an effort to push down the turret and rejoin her team. A well farmed Karma who has built some AP items is a truly terrifying support. She heals her whole team for ridiculous amounts, shields huge and provides a nice speed buff to the initiator. Karma is a bad bot lane support because all her skills are geared towards team fights. She loses to other supports as a babysitter, but she can provide incredible utility and damage in the later stages. 

Now, as to your list. Your list does specify a good duo lane buddy, which she is not. She needs farm, and loses a lot of effectiveness when under-itemed. She is more of an offensive support, dealing damage while providing great utility(like Kayle). Should she be moved up? Debatable. But please remove the two obviously not support champions in front of her on the list. 

Karma should move up, her shield is very good, she has an AOE heal based on %s which means you can heal then antire team for a massive amount of health, especially tanks. she has a move speed buff and can deal a lot of damage.

Some champions that deserve mention on this list:

Morgana, shen, ryze (yes it works really well, as he can farm up mana without killing minions with his E), mundo (viable, although there are better places for him), maoki, nidalee, poppy, rammus, sejuani, singed, teemo, zilean

All of those are not only viable but very good if you know what you are doing, some may seem odd, but you should try them out, thing about adding a tier four to this list to alow for more champions.

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and nautilus I forgot about him because I dont play him much.

What about Morgana? shouldn't she be on this list too as a viable support?  2-3 second snare, 2 seconds stuns on her ultimate, a cc shield, and a mr shredder.  I know I have seen a Morgana support a long time ago in tournament play and I would love to see where you would place her on the list.

what about naut? hes a lot of blitz but has a slow and a knockup D:

No zilean is kind of silly also no shen I know they are way better in other roles but they can easily be played as supports

i'm just a little surprised to see taric so high. Thanks for bumping blitz up elementz :)

I'd like to have the "odd Support"-Tier, which includes Champions that are not commonly used as support, but can work very well in specific situations ^^... All of them bring something unique to the table, that is in it's own right rather powerful, regardless of items. Very similar to Nunu actually.

 Such Supports would be:
- Jarvan IV (Initiate, Ultimate, AoE Armor and Attackspeed Buff, Slow, Mobile, Armor Debuff)
- Galio (Initiate, MS buff, Shield, Slow)
- Yorick (Incredibly strong Poke, Ultimate, Slow, Brush check)
- Gangplank (Strong Poke, AoE AD and MS buff)
- Nautilus (Heavy CC & initiate)
- Urgot (Poke, Brush Check, Initiate/Swap, Slow, Damage Reduction)
- Ashe (Strong Level 1, Slow Slow, Initiate, free CV)
- Malphite (Initiate, Attack Speed Slow, Slow, Strong Level 6)
- Lux (Brush-Check[E], Catch-Snare, Strong Level 6, Shield)
- Heimerdinger (Free Wards, Blind, Poke)
- Teemo (Free Wards, Blind, Poke)
- Shaco (Free Wards, extremely Mobile, Decent Harass)

"Taric, even Soraka provide much more tanking ability"

Really, Elementz?  Really?

man if karma is on the list urgot should be on the list.

My one game as support urgot was an astounding victory, and from this I concur that he is most definitly a viable support.

damage reduction, slow, armour reduction, target blitzcrank grab and super harrass!
All amazing stuff.

Also my one game with ap urgot was also a victory, so you should defintly try that out as well.
not as good as support though.

Nautilus really needs to be on this list. He is amazing at denying farming if your carry doesn't push the lane, can deny ganks easily and has in lane kill power only rival'd by Leona. Absolutely amazing IMO. He scales tremendously well throughout the game and is a nearly indestructible tank with a HoG and mog's mid game.

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Nautilus really needs to be on this list. He is amazing at denying farming if your carry doesn't push the lane, can deny ganks easily and has in lane kill power only rival'd by Leona. Absolutely amazing IMO. He scales tremendously well throughout the game and is a nearly indestructible tank with a HoG and mog's mid game.

Agreed. I've played support nautilus a few times, and seen it occasionally played by others in solo queue. I've never seen it do badly. If you have a good AD carry to duo queue with he's a great way to get som Elo.

In the laning phase he's like a Leona-Blitzcrank Hybrid, with more damage than both. He brings a lot of CC to the table in teamfights, and his W does a lot of damage if no one focuses him.

IMO, Nunu should be at least higher than Blitzcrank, if not tier 1. His Blood Boil is virtually OP and is better than any buff from any other supports. His snowball lets him harass extremely well and with a point in his NOM he can even zone fairly well in lane. He may not be as useful in teamfights as some of the better teamfighting tier 1 champs like Lulu, but a well placed Nununuke will practically win the teamfight, and his blood boil is still like a free phantom dancer on the carry so he still makes a huge impact.