Solo Queue Tier List - Hecarim

*Tier 1 - Dr. Mundo, Lulu, Shen, MorganaAhri, Nidalee, Ryze, UdyrLee Sin, Gangplank, Rumble, Rammus, Soraka, Cassiopeia, Kennen, RivenSkarner, Graves, Sion, Vladimir, Twisted Fate, Malzahar, Janna, Vayne, Shaco,

*Tier 2 - Renekton, Warwick, Mordekaiser, Nocturne, Yorick, Alistar, Karthus, Shyvana, Cho'GathSinged, Galio, Anivia, Tristana, Annie, Irelia, Maokai, Brand, Ashe, Gragas, Amumu, Sivir, Tryndamere, Kassadin, Corki, Pantheon, Olaf

* Tier 3 - Swain, WukongNautilus, Veigar, Kog'Maw, Jarvan IV, Miss Fortune, Malphite, Lux, Ezreal, Twitch, Teemo, Leblanc, Trundle, Talon, Taric, Urgot, Jax, Zilean, Master Yi, Fizz, Caitlyn, Viktor, Sona, Xerath, Akali,

* Tier 4 – Katarina, Blitzcrank, Leona, Orianna, Ziggs, Hecarim, Nasus, Kayle, Volibear, Fiddlesticks, NunuGaren, Poppy, FioraSejuani, Karma, Heimerdinger, Xin Zhao,

Eve Tier: Eve

Champ Explanations

I know I am going to get some flak from you guys about my Mundo and Lulu placement so I am going to explain why.

Dr. Mundo - I believe if you pick Mundo in the jungle, have a good build, know how to play him in the jungle, it's basically a free win in solo queue right now. He's incredibly strong, has the fastest clear time in the game, can't really be countered in the jungle at all. I don't feel that anyone can out jungle him, out tank him, his mobility is fantastic, and ontop of all that his DPS is very high to boot.

Lulu - Now I know a lot of lower elo players and people in the community don't value Lulu at all currently but I can assure you EVERY SINGLE competitive NA LoL team right now will either ban or FP her in every circumstance because she's that broken. She can be played in any lane and even the jungle viably right now. Her burst when built AP is very high and very spamable with her low CD's. Her survivability is almost unmatched right now. She has so much kite, peel, shields, MORE SHIELDS, built in spamable DPS that no one can really touch her when played right. Everytime I pick her in solo queue I've DOMINATED my lane with ease and let's be honest you all know I am no professional AP player. If I have 0 issues playing vs players who have better skills then I do then you know she's broken.

Both of these champions are recieving nerfs next patch for a reason and it's because they're broken. IMO Spam these champions to get some Elo while you can in the next 4-5 days so you can get some quick Elo in!

More explanations will come when I update this list again next week with the patch coming up. Some don't fret I am just getting back into the groove people!


Tier Explanations


Tier 1 - These champions are at the top of this list for a lot of reasons. The biggest reason being you can actually carry a team with them. In League of Legends its very hard to be a "true" carry as this game if very team oriented. If you've ever played a 4v5 you'll know what I am talking about as it's literally impossible to win when you're down a man. So I find these champions in Tier 1 lane very well in terms of being able to kill creeps well, harassing the enemy champion, and survivability. They also add a lot of utility  For the junglers in tier 1 it's because they control the jungle well, do it safel, gank well, and if they get fed can actually carry games themselves. All these champions are have great early games for the most part and just continuously get stronger as the game goes on. These are the pub stomp kings of the game in my eyes currently.

Tier 2 - These champions like tier 1 champions are great laners, and are great to have on your team in Solo Queue. They just don't carry as hard as other champions in tier 1 I find. Their early game laning power can be almost equal to the strength of tier 1 champions but I find the tier 2 champions to be slightly weaker than these tier 1 champions in terms of how hard you can carry a solo queue game with them. They are still the cream of the crop in Solo Queue and shouldn't be underestimated.

Tier 3 - These champions I find to be great 3rd, 4th, or 5th picks on a team. They are 100% viable but these champions generally aren't as strong in lane as tier 1 and tier 2 champions. A lot of them in this tier can stand toe to toe to a lot of tier 1 and 2 champions but I find they just aren't sought after as "great" Solo Queue champions. These champs are all 100% viable in solo queue. I just find them to be slightly weaker than tier 2 champions in Solo Queue.

Tier 4 - Now tier 4 is a tricky tier I find. These champs are all 100% viable for Solo Queue. If someone says they play a great X champion in tier 4 than you can let them solo or play that champion. These champions are simply tier 4 because they require a lot more farm I find then other champions to reach that "carry status" in Solo Queue. These champions are usually played by people who love these champions for their design and play style so usually people who play these champions I find aren't bad players at all so letting them play these champions sometime is a good choice. These champions problem isn't poor laning or really anything other than they require a lot more effort to be good at and a lot more skill to do well on is all. They're all fun champions and I suggest you give them a whirl and try them out.

Eve Tier  - Eve is just the worst champion in the game and she pales in comparison to any other champion in the game. If you pick Eve you're not doing your team a favor in fact you'll most likely lose because Riot purposely nerfed her into the ground because her kit was too hard to balance. It's not that I hate the champion it's just the fact that Riot intended to nerf her so hard that people would be reluctant to play her anymore. Maybe we'll see a Eve remake in the future but for now she's a danger to pick if you want to win.

DISCLAIMER! - Now remember everyone. This is just an OPINION and nothing else. Take it with a grain of salt and remember not to flame anyone in-game over me or my lists. If you like to theorycraft I encourage it but never take my opinion out on someone else because they don't pick accordingly to the list. It's pointless, annoying, and if you do you're a bad human being. All champions except for Eve are completely viable for solo queue so relax and have some fun, it's what the games about.

SOLO QUEUE ADVICE - Always remember to build a balanced team that is strong in all 5 aspects of the game. Get two strong solo's, a strong duo lane, and a strong jungler and your chances of winning will increase drastically! If you're not 1st or 2nd pick please pick accordingly to the rest of your team. Communication in pregame chat is the key to success! If you have an AD and an AP carry then the remaining roles of Tank, Support, and Jungle need to be filled! It's the best way to become a great League of Legends player by having a well-rounded group of champions you can play! Master all aspects of the game and not just one!

Message for the Community - So I find this list MUCH harder to put champions into tiers without being a bit biased. This is a new list so it will most likely be a little inaccurate to start off with so bear with me while I perfect it. So this is what I am going to ask of the community. If you have a suggestion on a champion placement please structure it in a respectful and logical way. Posts like "I owned with Tryn like 22-0 last game he should be higher! You're dumb as **** Elementz" Will simply be ignored as you're not helping make this list better.

 
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Comments

  • #24 pagan4life

    mundo #1? I dunno about that. Maybe I am just biased because I was one of the first mundo junglers and I want to believe I did well with him because I am good.

  • #23 evkWOLF

    This is coming from a 1300-1400 player so obviously take my comment with about a whole ocean of salt, but I think Warwick should be a little higher and Gangplank a little lower.
    Gangplank's nerfs have hurt him pretty bad and his jungle ganks don't really compete with the higher tier and more popular jungles. He's not that viable in top lane either anymore (I have no idea if support/mid GP is still strong though). Either way it seems like he's a little too high for what he's worth (I do agree he's still strong though).
    Warwick is a pretty ridiculous champ to play solo queue with, and it's not just me as I'm a horrid Warwick player. I have a few friends in that 1.9-2k elo bracket and they've been able to carry losing games fairly easily and consistently with Warwick. His ult basically singles out one person to die, his ganks are stupid at 6+, and he has a decent clear. I know early game is everything in solo q, but he can really change things around when he hits 6.
    I guess that's just my low elo though. Keep it up =)

  • #21 BarlowBrad

    Thanks for the Tier Lists Elementz! I appreciate your tier explanations, especially for tier 4... people in Solo Queue need to hear that before they rage against someone picking a "lesser" champ. I'm low elo, but I'd rather play with someone running a tier 4 champ that they know than a tier 1 champ they suck at just cause it's on this list.

    I know you're still perfecting this and will explain more in the future, but there are some champs that can be played either way (Nidalee, Sion, Kennen, Twisted Fate, Ezreal etc.). In the future, will you work into this list some of the more common options for them? (i.e., Nidalee AD is tier 1, while Nidalee AP is tier 2). Some are clearly not viable (like AP Xin Zhao or AD Annie), but will you include some of the more common ones to help players (like me) who aren't as familiar with these options that may or may not be viable?

    Thanks!
    -Brad 

  • #22 Sir_Dougles

    Bump for Great Justice

    I feel AP Lulu can carry, but support Lulu is slightly under Janna.  Same with Soraka.

  • #20 atreidesleto

    i mainly play AD carries and i wonder about two placements in particular, vayne and kog'maw. Im not high elo or anything, and i agree vayne can carry extremely hard if fed, but so does kog'maw, and i particularily feel vayne has more early game issues than kog in most games. So, would you mind explaining the reasoning behind vayne being tier 1 and kog tier 3? (i dont feel its too hard to position well with kog tbh, nowhere near as mobile as vayne but his slow and range can make do most of the time).

  • #18 Nemesis50

    With Quick-Silver Sash being one of the most popular buys as of now, I pretty, really do not like Malzahar up there. His whole gimick has been almost completely dominated by the abrupt popularity of one item, that almost all squishy targets should and will buy if they see a malzahar on the other team.

     

  • #19 Sir_Dougles

    Doesn't necessarily shut him down, if his teammates force it early then he has you.  It also doesn't stop him from farming like a hausse. 

  • #17 CovertGhoul

    GP not tier 1 worthy.  If I can beat GP in lane with Garen like... everytime lately...  why use GP.  The only matchup I currently like GP in is versus like Wukong.

  • #15 juzzthedude

    Should GP really be in Tier 1? As people say, in Solo Q it's all about wining the lane to win the game, and GP is basically beaten by most top lane champions as of now. I know his ult can contribute mid game, but is it really worth possible losing top and farm? Not to mention GP doesn't start becoming a damage dealer until after his Atmogs + IE, which is way way way too late IMO for snowbally solo Q.

    That's my personal opinion as an avid top player, but please do explain your reasoning Elementz, I am very interested in your opinion of him.

  • #13 chrissikek

    you say every na team will ban/fp lulu but in your ap mid list she is fairly low ranked! This really doesnt fit...

  • #16 Sir_Dougles

    Draft Mode =/= Solo Queue

  • #12 Sir_Dougles

    I personally feel Hecarim has a better place in Tier 3 then Tier 4.  His jungle is fairly good, with an average clear time, but good sustainability.  He is susceptible to Counter Jungling, but no more then any other average jungler so I don't think that much of a weakness.  My reasoning is this:

    Hecarim-Tier 4

    Nautilus-Tier 3

    They both bring exceptional initiation to a team fight, their jungle clears become faster and faster and their ganks are really strong.  Hecarim is better in Solo Top then Nautilus due to better sustain, and Nautilus mostly builds tank so his damage teeters off, while Hecarim can build beefy dps and have really strong damage (3 of his abilities deal AoE damage, with his Q having almost no cooldown with Max CDR).  They both really can't carry as hard as Tier 1 or Tier 2 champs, but I feel that Hecarim can carry as hard as any Tier 3 champ.

    I also feel Ashe should be higher then Tristana because since both are AD carries they need a good laning phase and good farm in order to carry mid to late game.  Tristana has strong burst and a good AS steriod but if she falls behind, then you feel it.  Her AoE slow forces her closer then she needs to be and even with an AS steriod her damage can suck with no farm and therefore be barely considered a "warm body" for team fights.  Ashe on the other hand, can bring utility to the team.  If her farm is too far behind then yeah her damage will suck, especially since she doesn't have any natural steriods, but look at it this way:

    Hawkshot:

    Passive: Ashe gains 5 extra gold whenever she kills a unit.

    Active: Ashe animates a hawk to scout for her, revealing terrain as it flies toward target location.

    Rather then have a damage steriod, she has a farm steroid.  Ontop of that its a CV for when the teams CV is down, or something for lane while the support uses CV on another half of the map.  Regardless of all this she also brings a single target slow, an AoE slow, and a Map Wipe Ult that stuns and slows in an AoE and is arguably one of the best initiators in the game or can be used to turn the tide of a team fight in progress.  All of this is provided to the team, regardless of her damage output.

    That's my 2 cents
    Last edited by Sir_Dougles: 4/26/2012 8:05:50 PM
  • #10 YoshinatorZ

    Top of Tier 3- Swain
    Bottom of Tier 4- Heimerdinger

    You seriously need to explain everything.

  • #11 Sir_Dougles

    Not much needs to be explained....it's easier to carry as Swain then it is Heimerdinger...

     

    Last edited by Sir_Dougles: 4/26/2012 7:49:14 PM
  • #9 acerunner

    Very good list BECAUSE it factors in placement of pick. You rated Kog'Maw #1 on your AD tier list but because he is easy to counter/needs a team based around him picking him first or second and revealing that is a poor choice.

    Good list RoElementz

  • #7 albert2471

    Hi Elementz, Great fan.

    I was just wondering, is there a particular reason Vayne is the only AD Ranged Carry in Tier 1? Her amazing endgame is obviously a plus, but that is only if she isn't shut down by the opposing team. Her early game is probably the worst of all the AD carries, so I find it hard for her to be the "pubstomp" champion you outlined in the description, as she cannot kill anything early game.

    There are several other AD carries that have better early stompability, and almost the same endgame. Champs such as Kog'Maw and Tristana both have the late game ability, and much better early stompability. These champs don't need to be fed either, to carry, as their steriods/passive provide more than half their power in lategame.

  • #8 GeeMista

    I see graves 6 spots above vayne...

  • #14 Sir_Dougles

    1) Graves is 6 spots above Vayne

    2) Actually she has a really strong early game due to high burst potential.  If you put 1 point into each ability you should have a feel for your lane by then.  You then max out an ability based on what you need to either fix a problem or solidify a lead.  If they are being aggressive then max Condemn to counter initiate and potentially kill someone or max Tumble to get a shorter cooldown.  What makes her very strong is unlike other AD carries, she essentially has 3 steriods built into her kit. Her Q (the percent damage increase on next hit), her W (true damage which is inescapable that scales off of their health, so the better they do, the better she does) and her Ult (Flat AD increase and Movespeed increase).  This means that even if she gets behind in farm, she doesn't feel THAT far behind. 

    3) Gonna have to disagree on Kog'Maw having a good early game.  HE is actually the one with the worst early game out of all the carries.  No real escapes and his steriods (all 2 of them if you count his W) don't really scale till late game.  Also, only his ult scales off AD, which doesn't help either.  He needs a team to protect him and feed him and you aren't always gonna get that in solo que.  Tristana has really good burst early game (one of the highest actually), but only 1 steriod and like Kog'Maw none of her abilities scale off anything she builds.

    Last edited by Sir_Dougles: 4/26/2012 8:03:20 PM
  • #6 noxialisrex

    Long overdue! But worth the wait.

  • #5 Jarvan_IV

    W00t solo queue list is here! Awesome!  Was truely surprised by Dr. Mundo being #1!  I'll have to try playing him more often!

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