Solo Queue Tier List - May 22nd - Darius *PART 1*

PART 1 - This is because there's a patch very soon and this will need to be gone over again after it. So doing some changes now, and then some after

*Tier 1 - Shen, MorganaAhri, Riven, Dr. Mundo, Nidalee, Twisted Fate, Ryze, Nautilus, UdyrKennen, Lee Sin, Lulu, Rumble, Rammus, Soraka, Twitch, Cassiopeia, Skarner, Graves, Sion, Vladimir, Vayne, Shaco,

*Tier 2 - Janna, Renekton, Warwick, Mordekaiser, Nocturne, Yorick, Alistar, Karthus, Shyvana, Cho'GathSinged, Galio, Anivia, Tristana, Annie, Irelia, Maokai, Brand, Ashe, Gragas, Amumu, Sivir, Tryndamere, Kassadin, Corki, Malzahar, Pantheon, Olaf, Varus, Gangplank,

* Tier 3 - Swain, Wukong, Veigar, Kog'Maw, Jarvan IV, Miss Fortune, Malphite, Lux, Ezreal, Teemo, Leblanc, Trundle, Talon, Taric, Urgot, Jax, Zilean, Master Yi, Fizz, Caitlyn, Viktor, Sona, Xerath, Akali,

* Tier 4 – Katarina, Blitzcrank, Leona, Orianna, Ziggs, Hecarim, Nasus, Kayle, Volibear, Fiddlesticks, NunuGaren, Poppy, FioraSejuani, Karma, Heimerdinger, Xin Zhao,

Eve Tier: Eve

Champ Explanations

Dr. Mundo moved down in tier 1- Little nerfs pile up and I am moving him down accordingly. He's still very strong and is one of the best junglers out there but I don't think he's #1 deserving anymore.

Lulu moved down in tier 1 - She's about to get nerfed and I think I might drop her down even more after that. So I am moving her down before I move her down so I can move her down when the patch comes out so it doesn't look like as big of a jump all of a sudden. Rofl :p

Gangplank moved down to tier 2 - Waaaaaay too high. Moving down to have a more accurate list. He's all around decent, so tier 2 fits him better then tier 1.

Riven moved up in tier 1 - QQ community train. This champ's been dominating all solo queue elo's it seems and I wouldn't be surprised if next patch we see some nerfs headed her way. Moving her up since she's dominating in solo queue. 

Twisted Fate moved up in tier 1 - Had him too low. If you use his ulti correctly and you can actually card combo correctly he's INCREDIBLY strong for solo queue. Can go against pretty much every lane, and his ganking power can snowball you to victory when used correctly. 

Kennen moved up in tier 1 - He's still really good and he's still really good at pub stomping lanes so I am moving him up.

Twitch moved to tier 1 -This guy just destorys solo queue. He's so annoying. No one ever buys pinks, his ganks are so strong, and he just snowballs from the jungle. The only way to stop him is to not die in lane and let's be honest here, in solo queue WHEN DOES THAT EVER HAPPEN? So when you add stealth + strong ganks = pooping on everyone. That is why I moved him up.

Malzahar moved down to tier 2 - Laning phase IS really good but doesn't snowball hard enough to warrant tier 1 imo.

Janna moved down to tier 2 - I think she's still really good but I don't see her as tier 1 anymore for solo queue. She's a really team coordinated support who also requires a lot of skill to play.

Nautilus moved up to tier 1 - He's been getting a lot of attention recently and it's well deserved. His CC and early game jungle control is just awesome. Not to mention he's also a really good top lane. I am moving him because I feel he carries really hard in solo queue and he's overall a great champion.

Varus placed into tier 2 -I feel him to be like an AD caster carry. His laning phase is pretty damn good, you can do some serious burst to people. If you manage to get farmed in the laning phase which is not that hard to do you can carry from there. He falls off a bit late game since he's got no steroid other than his passive but that's okay because his damage output is still very high.


Tier Explanations


Tier 1 - These champions are at the top of this list for a lot of reasons. The biggest reason being you can actually carry a team with them. In League of Legends its very hard to be a "true" carry as this game if very team oriented. If you've ever played a 4v5 you'll know what I am talking about as it's literally impossible to win when you're down a man. So I find these champions in Tier 1 lane very well in terms of being able to kill creeps well, harassing the enemy champion, and survivability. They also add a lot of utility  For the junglers in tier 1 it's because they control the jungle well, do it safel, gank well, and if they get fed can actually carry games themselves. All these champions are have great early games for the most part and just continuously get stronger as the game goes on. These are the pub stomp kings of the game in my eyes currently.

Tier 2 - These champions like tier 1 champions are great laners, and are great to have on your team in Solo Queue. They just don't carry as hard as other champions in tier 1 I find. Their early game laning power can be almost equal to the strength of tier 1 champions but I find the tier 2 champions to be slightly weaker than these tier 1 champions in terms of how hard you can carry a solo queue game with them. They are still the cream of the crop in Solo Queue and shouldn't be underestimated.

Tier 3 - These champions I find to be great 3rd, 4th, or 5th picks on a team. They are 100% viable but these champions generally aren't as strong in lane as tier 1 and tier 2 champions. A lot of them in this tier can stand toe to toe to a lot of tier 1 and 2 champions but I find they just aren't sought after as "great" Solo Queue champions. These champs are all 100% viable in solo queue. I just find them to be slightly weaker than tier 2 champions in Solo Queue.

Tier 4 - Now tier 4 is a tricky tier I find. These champs are all 100% viable for Solo Queue. If someone says they play a great X champion in tier 4 than you can let them solo or play that champion. These champions are simply tier 4 because they require a lot more farm I find then other champions to reach that "carry status" in Solo Queue. These champions are usually played by people who love these champions for their design and play style so usually people who play these champions I find aren't bad players at all so letting them play these champions sometime is a good choice. These champions problem isn't poor laning or really anything other than they require a lot more effort to be good at and a lot more skill to do well on is all. They're all fun champions and I suggest you give them a whirl and try them out.

Eve Tier  - Eve is just the worst champion in the game and she pales in comparison to any other champion in the game. If you pick Eve you're not doing your team a favor in fact you'll most likely lose because Riot purposely nerfed her into the ground because her kit was too hard to balance. It's not that I hate the champion it's just the fact that Riot intended to nerf her so hard that people would be reluctant to play her anymore. Maybe we'll see a Eve remake in the future but for now she's a danger to pick if you want to win.

DISCLAIMER! - Now remember everyone. This is just an OPINION and nothing else. Take it with a grain of salt and remember not to flame anyone in-game over me or my lists. If you like to theorycraft I encourage it but never take my opinion out on someone else because they don't pick accordingly to the list. It's pointless, annoying, and if you do you're a bad human being. All champions except for Eve are completely viable for solo queue so relax and have some fun, it's what the games about.

SOLO QUEUE ADVICE - Always remember to build a balanced team that is strong in all 5 aspects of the game. Get two strong solo's, a strong duo lane, and a strong jungler and your chances of winning will increase drastically! If you're not 1st or 2nd pick please pick accordingly to the rest of your team. Communication in pregame chat is the key to success! If you have an AD and an AP carry then the remaining roles of Tank, Support, and Jungle need to be filled! It's the best way to become a great League of Legends player by having a well-rounded group of champions you can play! Master all aspects of the game and not just one!

Message for the Community - So I find this list MUCH harder to put champions into tiers without being a bit biased. This is a new list so it will most likely be a little inaccurate to start off with so bear with me while I perfect it. So this is what I am going to ask of the community. If you have a suggestion on a champion placement please structure it in a respectful and logical way. Posts like "I owned with Tryn like 22-0 last game he should be higher! You're dumb as **** Elementz" Will simply be ignored as you're not helping make this list better.

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Comments

  • #25 NicknameMy

    AP

  • #21 NicknameMy

    I don't know why Nasus is that low. While he has a hard laning phase, he is at least a situational counterpick. If you pick Nasus into a farm lane, it is practically a free win for your team, at least at solo queue. I think this deserves at least tier 3, maybe even higher. At the Viktor tier list he was tier 2. And you never told us why you moved him down.

    A farmed and maybe even fed Nasus is the biggest terror to an enemy team (even more than Poppy), he can nearly 5vs1, especially because of his ultimate combined with lifesteal.

    Last edited by NicknameMy on 5/30/2012 12:49:56 PM
  • #18 DeadGod

    Rammus seems vastly too high in solo queue.  He's been nerfed into the ground; who even picks him anymore?

  • #17 Kantuti

    Elementz, I will never understand why you would have Fiora this low. Seriously  this is solo queue we are talking about.  I feel her entire toolset was  was handcrafted for it. She literally has everything that wins solo  games: 

    Lane sustain? check

    Great at dueling? check

    Great at pushing turrets? check

     Badass aoe ultimate? check

     

    Yeah, coordinated teams will shut her down, bot for solo queue  she is perfect. Easily tier two, maybe higher. The only thing you need is team comp with powerful initiator , either jungler or support Leona, and you can dominate games. 

  • #16 new_utero

    I feel that Ahri and twisted fate are valued too high. They aren't top T1 as both have some terrible matchups against easy to play champions - ryze and annie are just examples. While they bring some good stuff to a team Ahri falls of early even for an AP's and TF is very squishy and easy to chase.

    Lee Sin and Udyr should be all the way up Tier1. They are very very solid toplaners with almost no bad matchup, are super versatile and are two of the best, if not THE best, junglers for soloqueue. If jungling Lee Sin can start carrying a team of randoms from lvl2 and udyr can do this from lvl 3 or 4 depending on the route. They can gank whenever they want, do any route and build (go tank, dps, supportish) what they want and are therefore unpredictable. Both have almost no fair matchups apart from eachother. When the enemy jungler is just a tiny bit reliant on his route you can invade and get rid of all early game pressure. You will turn the game into a 5v4 so easily if you know what you're doing.

    Alistar should be tier 1. He is one of the strongest supports as he can devastate a lane by displacement and early burst. Ali counters a lot of weaker lanes and initiate supports (blitz, leona, naut...) From there you build tank and compared to, say, soraka you are actually über useful in teamfights. And you all know what he can do from the jungle. He's banworthy and truly one of the top picks.

    Amumu is valued too low as well if you ask me. Should be among the top tier 2 champions. His skillset is built to destroy any disorganized team, and well... what do we see in SoloQ? ;-) .  His weakness is that he is prone to being invaded but he doesnt exactly die easily when countered. He can put on quite a pretty good fight at the first levels when you got the right build.

    Anyways, thanks of the list. Appreciate the work you put in it. Keep it up man!
    Lumni - EUW

  • #22 Karmafox

    You are wrong about Ahri and Twisted fate. In solo queue Ahri is perfectly placed by Elementz. She is (slightly) overpowered her Kill/Death ratio is about 1.4 for an avarege player. She snowballs easily out of control. She doesn’t have strong counterpicks. Her only fear should be strong ganks from the enemy jungler.  Since her release she always was more successful then morgana (morgana does well against Ahri) for example. In competetive play she is even more broken and is the single best ap champ at the moment with a average win ratio of about 57%.

    Twisted fate needs probably more skill to play then ahri but is also placed right. He is very squishy and needs to be played much more carefully.

    About Lee Sin and Udyr. I disagree with Elementz in this part and say that Udyr belongs in tier 3. Elementz and Stonewall overestimate Udyr quite for a while. They didn’t moved him in their Tier lists according to the nerfs. They actualy don’t realize how mediocre he is in competetive play and solo Queue. The avarage player performs slightly under 50% with him. He has no strong ganking tools (flash and orb walk won’t solve the problems), no gap closer and very little utility for the team (no ultimate and beeing only a meat shield, squishy without farm). He has so many strong counters it realy hurts, he can be countered from any position with at least 2 Champions. His strongest counters for example are Twisted Fate (gold card and red card) and Ahri (her taunt). Janna on the enemy team shuts him down very effectively. (3% global speed passive and 3 CC abilities). Ashe can kite him all day long. Udyr has at least 8 jungler over him that perform better (Skarner, Dr. Mundo, Shaco, Amumu, Nautilus…). He and his core Items have always been nerfed very hard (Wit’s end, Randuins omen) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn7pceX_Mnkhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn7pceX_Mnk so hes just O.K. but not tier 1 worthy now. Udyr is my favorite champion in the game (style) and i would realy like to see a rework on him (his passive, Tiger and bear stance) cause he is great.


    Lee sin has a very High skillcap and if you are not a 1400+ player you don’t need even bother with him. At about 1350 Elo he has a performance of about 48% in avarege. But he is realy good in competetive play and in the hands of a good player he is very successful. So its ok if Elementz puts him on Tier 1.

    You are absolutely right about Amumu in everything you said. Beeing buffed in 3 ways: core item sunfire cape, +mr and his ability makes him very strong if not counterjungled early (blue buff stolen). I know that amumu is overpowered (at least in low elo), and will be nerfed for sure (his lategame).

    Last edited by Karmafox on 5/31/2012 5:12:01 PM
  • #15 roninsilfar

    Please reconsider the position of Ziggs, Swain, and other champs that can heavily benefit from the new item "Athene's Holy Grail." This item is outstanding for mana whore champs.

  • #14 Vorguen

    while biotixin is legitimately clueless, riven is not as OP as everyone thinks, people just dont play against her right. a good renekton, kennen, olaf, teemo, kayle, garen, and even some ranged AD's counter her... with many counters out there the champion does not need to be nerfed or overhyped, people just need to learn the champs that counter her and abuse them.. riven has to play flawless to do well in many of those matchups

    Last edited by Vorguen on 5/25/2012 2:26:20 AM
  • #13 biotoxin1

    Riven = worst solo top champ and tier 1. gg elementz, nobody will trust u more

  • #19 NicknameMy

    you suck so hard, you know that?

  • #11 brainsickhater

    I don't know if Malz deserves to be moved down.  I have carried many games with him, indeed I have outcarried other fed carries.  Perhaps down to low tier 1, but with the ability to kill a champion on his own once every 75 sec or so, plus an AOE silence and an ability that can melt most of a team if given the right opportunity, I don't think Malz is tier 2.  Then again, I'm no pro.

  • #10 Tuppers

    Elementz could you please explain why you have placed Olaf in bottom tier 2? I currently believe that he is among the top 10 champions currently.

  • #9 Stez007

    I think Fiora should be higher in Tier 4 or in Tier 3 for the following reasons.

    She is a lane bully that snowballs very well, is difficult to gank and becomes a lategame nightmare if left to farm (or if she gets fed). Yes she's countered by CC and has more than a few bad lane matchups, but in solo queue teams are rarely coordinated enough to keep her CCed (see: Trynd's and Yi's success) and her ulti, farming ability and sustain make it difficult to completely force her out of lane. She also split pushes well, a valuable thing in solo queue.

    Moreover, though she has bad lane matchups the Fiora player's personal skill makes a big difference in how well she does in lane. Being able to safely trade and time Riposte well can mean she gets a big advantage early on, sometimes big enough to even overcome some of her worse matchups. And, as you're so fond of saying, if you can win the lane with Fiora, you'll probably win the game.

  • #8 DonYagamoth

    In my opinion, you should move Karma below Heimerdinger. I realize, order isn't as important in Tier 4. But the difference in actual power between Heimer and Karma seems significant to me. A well played Heimer is much more trouble than a well played Karma.

     I'm saying this as a player who loves to play Karma ^^ 

  • #12 Yaamahri

    Actually, a well played Karma is more trouble for 3 reasons:

    1. Insane Burst

    2. Insane team fight control with heal/shield

    3. Almost impossible to kill.

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