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Elementz,

This list appears to be relatively accurate to me... there are a couple of things I might consider though. 

1. This is actually a question- are these just the tiers listings for high elo? If so, do you have advice on who is a good champion to practice to gain elo from say the 1400 range?

2. I would have trouble putting most ADC/support champs high on the list, simply because you have to rely on a lane partner at the beginning 

3. I would think jungle could be the most influential spot if you are in solo queue, as you can be all over the map. The same goes for great roaming champs from mid (I know this is somewhat accounted for).

4. There are a couple of champions that I see having more or less potential than where they are listed. Can I get some pro advice on why/why not these champions should/should not be considered in an appropriate place?

a. Lux - It seems to me like she can do a great amount of damage from long range without getting in range of bruisers (even with gap closers) and her Q is underrated IMHO. Is it the fact that the enemy coming from more than one angle can ruin her game?

b. Jax - I know he is very high, but I see him as an all around pro sauce carry. Is it his issues that comes up when the other team has CC?

c. Udyr - I love udyr and actually went 7-1 or 7-2 with him last season... but I feel like he is too easy to kite and should be moved down... is his counter jungle the reason he is in the middle?

d. Dr. Mundo - Very tanky, can give first blue if keeping up in level and can effectively tower dive at level 6 (especially when leveling his W).. Is he low tier 2 because a semi-weak peeling capability in team fights and how it is comparatively more difficult to give a needy lane the kill w/o taking it for yourself?

e. Kog Maw - Yes, I could see him struggling with a bad support, but I feel like he can carry harder than a lot of ADC's late because of the vision his ult gives and the range from his W. Lack of escapes?

I'll cut it off there. Most of what I see I agree with and will defer to your experience.

Sorry that was so long... just looking for some clarity to try to better my game. I love the tier lists and find it rather funny that people will start playing the champions you put on top more often, even when they aren't good at those champs (at least in semi-low elo). 

Thanks,

McCpwn

You forgot to mention that Singed moved up to Tier 1 from Tier 3 :)

I'd love to know why, too if possible! As Singed is easily my favourite champion at the moment :) If it has something to do with the meta, or items, or whatever it may be?

Archangel staff works for him in season 3.  So mana = HP and AP.  And once you fill up the staff, you get a blitz-like mana shield.  So basicly he has +250 HP and +60 AP and a massive shield when needed.

I use Blackfire torch (HP, AD, % damage, CDR, mPen)+ rod of ages (HP, AD, Mana)+ frozen heart (CDR, mana, Armor) + Mercury Treads (MR, tenacity) to fill out his kit.  With an extra spot for situational items, usually some extra MR or Rylia's.

I'm basically invulnerable with my ult running while doing a large amount of damage all around.

this list is utterly pointless...

This list is only for reference only and may not be 100% correct.  Not utterly pointless though.

Well the Patch isn't even out and the majority of the players hasn't played with the new changes in PBE, nor are the changes fixed so I guess this list is tending to be closer to "pointless" than "somewhat useful" despite being an opinion. It's not like Elementz's tier list is accurate anyway, even regarding the actual game play.

is there any reason why you stopped uploading the video's to youtube, the own3d player is just so buggy

No Malzahar? He should be tier 1, easily.

Twitch moved up to tier 2 -

i look him in tier 3 on the list, but you wrote move up to Tier 2

so Twitch is in Tier 2 or 3? let me know

Hecarim is kind of the same with wukong, warwick and stuff...

All those champs are argueable low seeded for you and me.  (I don't know your elo, but im around 1,3 and i will discuss this topic for my elo)

Wukong and Warwick are champs which are soooo easy to play. With Warwick its just impossible to LOSE the toplane, you will not dominate it 24/7 but you will not get crushed.

Because of this easieness they are quite solid pics in low elo matches like mine are. Everybody isn't even capable to play one champion perfectly, so easy-play champs will come out ahead against more complicated ones. While the Elo is rising the picks will also change.

I also get frustrated when i see comments like "DONT pick Irelia against Jax!!!!!". What will i do? i pick her and prove them that hardcore conters doesn't exist. You will never see me losing my toplane against Jax when i play Irelia just because its my personal style/preference.

Even in 2k elo i doubt that there are unplayable lanes. Wickd is proofing me right that not every Irelia player is contered by Jax because Wickd is just unconterable. It's about completly knowing champs and handling them.

Watching at this tierlist i can't find a real priorityfactor. 

Easyness? TF is everything else than easy to handle
Utilities to carry a team?   to low seeded supports

Elementz is doing a fantastic job because the overall sheet is right. There is no "DAT ONE tierlist" because like i explained its based on personal experience.

Atm you see 24/7 Zyra supports even though shes low seeded just because you cant calculate synergies factors in lists like this.

I have the feeling like some guys think like :" A team of Tier 1 Champs has to win, its impossible to lose"
Thats not really correct. You have to fill every role perfect. If you want to have a heavy poke-comp you want to get sth like:

Kog'Maw /Nunu - Bot
TF /Gragas - Mid
Nidalee - Top

when you want to have a dive-comp like Azubu Blaze did very impressive in MLG

Go for :

Noc- Jungle
TF - Mid
Malp/Shen- Top
random bot

I know in this examples are much Tier 1 champs listed but the point i want to make should be clear. Its about balancing a team.

 Orianna, Shen, Katarina, Irelia, Elise  [Team1] 

will never win against

Chogath Top
Vayne/Lulu- Bot
Anivia - Mid
LeeSin- Jungle

Everybody knows that Team1 isnt even fitting the meta. But how often do you have games where everybody is just picking "imba" champs which makes no sense to gether. Like halfpoke hard meeleengage mixes.

Refine your meta-knowledge learn which champs synergies together, coordinate your team with pings and calls and you will beat any Tier 1 only team which isn't doing that :)

I know that everybody got different oppinions n stuff but wukung and hecarim in tier4 soloq...realy ?

Hecarim got one of the highest winrates in soloq

and wukong is sick good

You mention how you really don't know how strong Eve is right now, so I figured I'd throw in some comments on her. Right now, I'd say high tier 2 or low tier 1 is the place for her. She's strong, her EQQ deals a surprising amount of damage, with a good early kill she snowballs unbelievably well still. Still one of my go to picks for solo queue. She's at the level where the counter-play is why you pick her. If the enemy is forced to buy pink wards, you're depriving them of gold. If they don't you gank them. Or they're forced to farm under their turrets out of fear, similar to Twisted Fate's or a teleport ward gank style global presence. 

Now, with the new S3 DFG, she's the same broken OP Eve we just got away from. The CDR and boosted damage with a good chunk of AP make starting her snowball too easy. High Tier 1, simply because even if she doesn't get to roam, she will eat most mids, especially the ones you see often in competitive play. 

Glad to see some recognition for AP Nidalee, but I disagree with Orianna as number 1. I feel like Orianna is still too hard to use to be put in that spot. Sure, when you do everything right, you win, but I've seen maybe 2 people outside of competition who were actually that mechanically skilled. I love Orianna, but like you said about Cho'gath, easy champions are better for solo queue.

Lastly, I'd love to see you take a look at Hecarim. Recently I've been seeing a lot of him, with his new skin out, and his jungle has blown me away. He deals "tons of damage" with nothing but a triforce, which he must have been designed for if you look at the cooldowns on his Q and the sheen proc, and he refuses to die. As far as S3 goes, the Tiamat upgrade Ravenous Hydra, combined with Triforce and tank items, Hecarim will be scary. Strikingly resembly Tiamat Fiora.

Opinions on Lulu? I've found people laugh at me when i pick her as a support (not a high elo player and lately more often than not i've been put into the support role because no one else will take it) but i've averaged about 1/2/12 over 20 games with her, her ult can be a complete lane changer and and her entire kit is extremely useful in all situations, yet I rarely ever play against a lulu she seems to be a very underrated champion with lots often saying shes a terrible support. Any opinions as to why this is?