Unofficial PBE Patch Notes for 4/9/2015

By StonewallRoG 4/9/2015 1:42:11 PM
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**Ryze Rework is Here

Ryze Ability Icons

Passive	Q	W	E	R

Stats

Health down to 506 +75 per level (down from 558 + 86)

Now has 5 mp5 (down from 6)

Armor growth now 3 (down from 4)

[Passive] - Arcane Mastery

Casting spells grants a stack of Arcane Mastery for 12 seconds.

At 5 stacks, Ryze becomes supercharged, gaining a Mana shield that blocks 20 + 5 x level (+8% maximum mana) damage and causing his spellcasts to reduce the cooldown of his other spells by Overload's cooldown to a minimum of 0.25 seconds.

Ryze's abilities scale with his maximum Mana.

[Q] - Overload

Fires an orb, dealing 55/80/105/130/155 (+0.55*AP) (+2/2.5/3/3.5/4% maximum mana) magic damage to the first target hit.

Cost: 30/35/40/45/50 Mana

Range: 900

Cooldown: 4/4/4/4/4

[W] - Rune Prison

Instantly roots a target for 1.1/1.2/1.3/1.4/1.5 second(s), dealing 65/95/125/155/185 (+0.4*AP) (+2.5% maximum mana) magic damage.

Cost: 60/70/80/90/100 Mana

Range: 600

Cooldown: 17.5/17.5/17.5/17.5/17.5

[E] - Spell Flux

Unleashes an orb that deals 50/68/86/94/112 (+0.3*AP) (+2% maximum mana) magic damage and reduces the Magic Resist of its target by 8/9/10/11/12% for 5 seconds, stacking up to 3 times.

After striking the target, splits to damage all nearby enemies before returning to Ryze’s original target, dealing increasing damage based on the number of bolts. Instances of damage on the primary target after the first deal 25/34/43/47/56 (+0.15*AP) (+1% maximum mana) damage.

Cost: 60/70/80/90/100 Mana

Range: 600

Cooldown: 7/7/7/7/7

[R] - Desperate Power

Passive: Ryze gains 10/20/30% Cooldown Reduction.

Active: Ryze gains 80/80/80 Movement Speed and 15/20/25% Spell Vamp for 4/5/6 seconds. During this time, Ryze's spells deal 50/50/50% additional damage to enemies near his targets.

Cooldown: 80/60/40

Item Changes

Black Cleaver

Movement speed duration lowered to 2 seconds (down from 4)

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bloodmoth13
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Posted 4/10/2015 5:45:48 PM
Quote from Rahvin90210 jump

It's not whether FH or visage are good on him or not, it is that every champ gets a power budget, and people feel some of this cdr is just wasted power on him that could have gone elsewhere.

Its not wasted power budget, its consolation for him no longer scaling with CDR, actually go analyze his new passive, the way it works is completely unaffected by CDR, CDR only affects how often he can go into supercharged, meaning that even a free sizable 30% CDR passive actually doesnt go far, hes just getting the stats he SHOULDNT itemize for, for free!

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Posted 4/10/2015 10:51:58 AM
do u even ryze?

from point and click killer to skill based champ ._.

Rye got Zileaned

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Posted 4/10/2015 1:08:35 PM
What's wrong with skill?

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Posted 4/10/2015 5:40:31 PM
NOOO NOT SKILL!!!

Zilean is a thousand times better with his rework and this rework looks really good too. not sure what all the skillshot hate is about

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Posted 4/10/2015 8:08:20 AM
Even if CDR is wasted, i feel like building FH and Spirit visage and stuff is still the way to go, because he needs tankyness, especially with the new shield mechanic. The other tankyness alternatives are all inferior and he will just get deleted lategame, if he only opts for AP and Mana.

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Posted 4/10/2015 8:48:54 AM
It's not whether FH or visage are good on him or not, it is that every champ gets a power budget, and people feel some of this cdr is just wasted power on him that could have gone elsewhere.

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Posted 4/10/2015 9:17:49 AM
Maybe Riot intends to "waste" the power in free CDR to nerf the amount of Power he gets along with FH and SV: They even lowered his HP and Armor to make a tank build not that effient anymore like it used to be. Combined with less Mana scaling and better AP scaling.

Like the changes to AP Tryn who was not supposed to ignore his fury and just spin and heal away. Riot wants Ryze's tankiness only in combination with his shield and maybe healing when he activates his ult.

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Posted 4/10/2015 2:09:54 PM
But thats not how a sustained dmg, low range mage works. He cant profit from zhonyas like others can (kennen, swain) and he needs tankyness, or else he explodes. He needs that build to function. At least i dont really see that they took any meaningful powerbudget from him to give him the free 30%, so he can still build them without gimping him. Theres no need to look for anything else as long as they dont nerf him other regards.

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Posted 4/11/2015 4:58:22 AM
Riot now wrote something more about Ryze. They want his moment of Power and tankiness when he has passive phat shield + Ultimate and only then, so they nerf the general tankiness and the effectiveness of tanky items. It was also mentioned that they think Tear + RoA are fine, but being forced into FH, SV as well felt like caging him too much into one build path.

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Posted 4/10/2015 8:02:37 AM
RIP Ryze

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Posted 4/10/2015 6:54:14 AM
Lol, where is Q a skillshot? I dont see it being a skillshot.

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Posted 4/10/2015 7:08:06 AM
''dealing damage to first target hit''. Plus it has 900 range.

Edit: I also forgot that you can look at all his spells on the main website page dedicated to the rework. Shows pretty clearly it is a skillshot.

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Posted 4/10/2015 2:17:11 AM
"We didn't made an AP Black Cleaver because it would be OP on a champions like Cass and Ryze" - rito games year ago. "WotA was nerfed because it was OP on Ryze, Vlad and Cassio." - rito games 2 years ago. And now what I see ? Right: Ryze get an AoE magic Black Cleaver, builtin overtuned-old-WotA, 30% CDR and ghost. Are you gonna nerf him already, rito ?

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Posted 4/10/2015 7:20:04 AM
And his main damage becomes a single target skillshot, but good job cherrypicking.

P.S he already had the majority of what you are complaining about. And his shred is actually worse now against carries unless you get 3 stacks on them.

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Posted 4/10/2015 8:49:46 AM
Ryze always had that MR shred and spellvamp and ghost.

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Posted 4/10/2015 1:11:49 PM
all the stuff you listed was already in his Kit way before this rework. Spell flux always shredded MR, just more efficiently now since it doesn't bounce randomly anymore. Ult always had spell vamp, his Q used to give him CDR and since you'd always get FH before it becomes a part of him anyway. also the MS increase was there as well.

do some research and you'll learn more

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Posted 4/10/2015 1:58:05 AM
Q is a skillshot now! No more free point and click harass. +1

E gives him waveclear. Seems interesting.

Passive is worded in possibly the most confusing way possible. Some clarity, anyone?

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Posted 4/10/2015 2:17:59 AM
spellcasts add a stack of arcane mastery

Once he reaches 5 stacks he gains a shield and gains the supercharged buff.

While he has this buff, his spellcasts reduce the remaining cooldown on all his spells by the same cooldown as his Q.

Basically with 0 CDR, spellcasts reduce the CD of his other spells by 4s (Qs Cooldown), with 40% CDR, they reduce his spells cooldown by 2.4s (Qs cooldown with 40% CDR)

What this means is that after 5 spells, CDR becomes useless, which is why he gets it for free

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Posted 4/10/2015 2:56:04 AM
Ah, ty

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Posted 4/9/2015 10:55:38 PM
Do your spells give you passive stacks WHEN you're supercharged?

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